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From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, djwong@kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] xfs: stop advertising SB_I_VERSION
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2024 10:35:54 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZeUJWuO8TkuoodIx@dread.disaster.area> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <726abff82e992e3e0765e8711e90bf0accb37b2a.camel@kernel.org>

On Fri, Mar 01, 2024 at 08:42:17AM -0500, Jeff Layton wrote:
> On Wed, 2024-02-28 at 15:28 +1100, Dave Chinner wrote:
> > From: Dave Chinner <dchinner@redhat.com>
> > 
> > The redefinition of how NFS wants inode->i_version to be updated is
> > incomaptible with the XFS i_version mechanism. The VFS now wants
> > inode->i_version to only change when ctime changes (i.e. it has
> > become a ctime change counter, not an inode change counter). XFS has
> > fine grained timestamps, so it can just use ctime for the NFS change
> > cookie like it still does for V4 XFS filesystems.
> > 
> 
> Are you saying that XFS has timestamp granularity finer than
> current_time() reports?

No.

> I thought XFS used the same clocksource as
> everyone else.

It does.

> At LPC, you mentioned you had some patches in progress to use the unused
> bits in the tv_nsec field as a change counter to track changes that
> occurred within the same timer tick.

Still a possibility, but I wasn't going to do anything in that
direction because it still seemed like you were still trying to make
progress down the path of generic timestamp granularity
improvements.

> Did that not pan out for some reason? I'd like to understand why if so.
> It sounded like a reasonable solution to the problem.

Time. And the fact that ctime granularity isn't SB_I_VERSION at all,
so whilst we might support statx change cookies in the future, that
will not be via a SB_I_VERSION mechanism.

i.e. statx doesn't require us to support SB_I_VERSION for the change
cookies, so until we are in a position to present a higher
resolution change cookie via ctime we're just going to remove
support for both.

> Acked-by: Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>

Thanks!

-Dave.
-- 
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com

  reply	other threads:[~2024-03-03 23:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-02-28  4:28 [PATCH] xfs: stop advertising SB_I_VERSION Dave Chinner
2024-02-28 16:08 ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-02-28 23:55   ` Dave Chinner
2024-02-29  0:09     ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-03-01 13:42 ` Jeff Layton
2024-03-03 23:35   ` Dave Chinner [this message]
2024-03-04  0:45     ` Jeff Layton

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