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From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
To: Keith Busch <kbusch@kernel.org>
Cc: "Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)" <kernel@pankajraghav.com>,
	hch@lst.de, mcgrof@kernel.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	brauner@kernel.org, chandan.babu@oracle.com, david@fromorbit.com,
	djwong@kernel.org, gost.dev@samsung.com, hare@suse.de,
	john.g.garry@oracle.com, linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, p.raghav@samsung.com,
	ritesh.list@gmail.com, ziy@nvidia.com
Subject: Re: [RFC] iomap: use huge zero folio in iomap_dio_zero
Date: Wed, 15 May 2024 05:04:14 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZkQ0Pj26H81HxQ_4@casper.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZkQfId5IdKFRigy2@kbusch-mbp>

On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 08:34:09PM -0600, Keith Busch wrote:
> On Wed, May 15, 2024 at 01:50:53AM +0100, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > On Tue, May 07, 2024 at 04:58:12PM +0200, Pankaj Raghav (Samsung) wrote:
> > > Instead of looping with ZERO_PAGE, use a huge zero folio to zero pad the
> > > block. Fallback to ZERO_PAGE if mm_get_huge_zero_folio() fails.
> > 
> > So the block people say we're doing this all wrong.  We should be
> > issuing a REQ_OP_WRITE_ZEROES bio, and the block layer will take care of
> > using the ZERO_PAGE if the hardware doesn't natively support
> > WRITE_ZEROES or a DISCARD that zeroes or ...
> 
> Wait a second, I think you've gone too far if you're setting the bio op
> to REQ_OP_WRITE_ZEROES. The block layer handles the difference only
> through the blkdev_issue_zeroout() helper. If you actually submit a bio
> with that op to a block device that doesn't support it, you'll just get
> a BLK_STS_NOTSUPP error from submit_bio_noacct().

Ohh.  This is a bit awkward, because this is the iomap direct IO path.
I don't see an obvious way to get the semantics we want with the current
blkdev_issue_zeroout().  For reference, here's the current function:

static void iomap_dio_zero(const struct iomap_iter *iter, struct iomap_dio *dio,
                loff_t pos, unsigned len)
{
        struct inode *inode = file_inode(dio->iocb->ki_filp);
        struct page *page = ZERO_PAGE(0);
        struct bio *bio;

        bio = iomap_dio_alloc_bio(iter, dio, 1, REQ_OP_WRITE | REQ_SYNC | REQ_IDLE);
        fscrypt_set_bio_crypt_ctx(bio, inode, pos >> inode->i_blkbits,
                                  GFP_KERNEL);
        bio->bi_iter.bi_sector = iomap_sector(&iter->iomap, pos);
        bio->bi_private = dio;
        bio->bi_end_io = iomap_dio_bio_end_io;

        __bio_add_page(bio, page, len, 0);
        iomap_dio_submit_bio(iter, dio, bio, pos);
}

and then:

static void iomap_dio_submit_bio(const struct iomap_iter *iter,
                struct iomap_dio *dio, struct bio *bio, loff_t pos)
{
        struct kiocb *iocb = dio->iocb;

        atomic_inc(&dio->ref);

        /* Sync dio can't be polled reliably */
        if ((iocb->ki_flags & IOCB_HIPRI) && !is_sync_kiocb(iocb)) {
                bio_set_polled(bio, iocb);
                WRITE_ONCE(iocb->private, bio);
        }

        if (dio->dops && dio->dops->submit_io)
                dio->dops->submit_io(iter, bio, pos);
        else
                submit_bio(bio);
}

so unless submit_bio() can handle the fallback to "create a new bio
full of zeroes and resubmit it to the device" if the original fails,
we're a little mismatched.  I'm not really familiar with either part of
this code, so I don't have much in the way of bright ideas.  Perhaps
we go back to the "allocate a large folio at filesystem mount" plan.

  reply	other threads:[~2024-05-15  4:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-05-03  9:53 [PATCH v5 00/11] enable bs > ps in XFS Luis Chamberlain
2024-05-03  9:53 ` [PATCH v5 01/11] readahead: rework loop in page_cache_ra_unbounded() Luis Chamberlain
2024-05-03  9:53 ` [PATCH v5 02/11] fs: Allow fine-grained control of folio sizes Luis Chamberlain
2024-05-03  9:53 ` [PATCH v5 03/11] filemap: allocate mapping_min_order folios in the page cache Luis Chamberlain
2024-05-03  9:53 ` [PATCH v5 04/11] readahead: allocate folios with mapping_min_order in readahead Luis Chamberlain
2024-05-03 14:32   ` Hannes Reinecke
2024-05-03  9:53 ` [PATCH v5 05/11] mm: split a folio in minimum folio order chunks Luis Chamberlain
2024-05-03 14:53   ` Zi Yan
2024-05-15 15:32   ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-05-16 14:56     ` Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)
2024-05-03  9:53 ` [PATCH v5 06/11] filemap: cap PTE range to be created to allowed zero fill in folio_map_range() Luis Chamberlain
2024-05-03  9:53 ` [PATCH v5 07/11] iomap: fix iomap_dio_zero() for fs bs > system page size Luis Chamberlain
2024-05-07 14:58   ` [RFC] iomap: use huge zero folio in iomap_dio_zero Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)
2024-05-07 15:11     ` Zi Yan
2024-05-07 16:11     ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-05-08 11:39       ` Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)
2024-05-08 11:43         ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-05-09 12:31           ` Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)
2024-05-09 12:46             ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-05-09 12:55               ` Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)
2024-05-09 12:58                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-05-09 14:32                   ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-05-09 15:05                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-05-09 15:08                       ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-05-09 15:09                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-05-15  0:50     ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-05-15  2:34       ` Keith Busch
2024-05-15  4:04         ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
2024-05-15 15:59           ` Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)
2024-05-15 18:03             ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-05-16 15:02               ` Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)
2024-05-17 12:36                 ` Hannes Reinecke
2024-05-17 12:56                   ` Hannes Reinecke
2024-05-17 13:30                   ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-05-15 11:48       ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-05-07 16:00   ` [PATCH v5 07/11] iomap: fix iomap_dio_zero() for fs bs > system page size Matthew Wilcox
2024-05-07 16:10     ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-05-07 16:11       ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-05-07 16:13         ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-05-08  4:24           ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-05-08 11:22             ` Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)
2024-05-08 11:36             ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-05-08 11:20     ` Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)
2024-05-03  9:53 ` [PATCH v5 08/11] xfs: use kvmalloc for xattr buffers Luis Chamberlain
2024-05-03  9:53 ` [PATCH v5 09/11] xfs: expose block size in stat Luis Chamberlain
2024-05-03  9:53 ` [PATCH v5 10/11] xfs: make the calculation generic in xfs_sb_validate_fsb_count() Luis Chamberlain
2024-05-07  8:40   ` John Garry
2024-05-07 21:13     ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-05-08 11:28       ` Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)
2024-05-03  9:53 ` [PATCH v5 11/11] xfs: enable block size larger than page size support Luis Chamberlain
2024-05-07  0:05   ` Dave Chinner
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2024-05-07 18:38 [RFC] iomap: use huge zero folio in iomap_dio_zero Ritesh Harjani
2024-05-08 11:42 ` Christoph Hellwig

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