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From: Brian Foster <bfoster@redhat.com>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: Long Li <leo.lilong@huawei.com>,
	brauner@kernel.org, djwong@kernel.org, cem@kernel.org,
	linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, yi.zhang@huawei.com,
	houtao1@huawei.com, yangerkun@huawei.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/2] iomap: fix zero padding data issue in concurrent append writes
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2024 09:26:45 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZztOpQwU0pRagGwU@bfoster> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZzrlO_jEz9WdBcAF@infradead.org>

On Sun, Nov 17, 2024 at 10:56:59PM -0800, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 13, 2024 at 11:13:49AM -0500, Brian Foster wrote:
> > >  static bool
> > >  iomap_ioend_can_merge(struct iomap_ioend *ioend, struct iomap_ioend *next)
> > >  {
> > > +	size_t size = iomap_ioend_extent_size(ioend);
> > > +
> > 
> > The function name is kind of misleading IMO because this may not
> > necessarily reflect "extent size." Maybe something like
> > _ioend_size_aligned() would be more accurate..?
> 
> Agreed.  What also would be useful is a comment describing the
> function and why io_size is not aligned.
> 

Ack.

> > 1. It kind of feels like a landmine in an area where block alignment is
> > typically expected. I wonder if a rename to something like io_bytes
> > would help at all with that.
> 
> Fine with me.
> 
> > Another randomish idea might be to define a flag like
> > IOMAP_F_EOF_TRIMMED for ioends that are trimmed to EOF. Then perhaps we
> > could make an explicit decision not to grow or merge such ioends, and
> > let the associated code use io_size as is.
> 
> I don't think such a branch is any cheaper than the rounding..
> 

True, but I figured it to be more informational/usable than performance
oriented.

IOW following the train of thought in the other subthread, would any
practical workload be affected if we just trimmed io_size when needed by
i_size and left it at that?

If not, then you could use a flag to be more deliberate/informative that
the ioend was slightly special in that it was modified on submission,
and then adjacent ioends would simply fail to merge on a flag comparison
rather than fail to merge on a contiguity check.

Of course if folks would rather just do the rounding helper thing and
leave it up to the fs to use it, then I don't see any fundamental
problem with that. I just find it kind of a subtle/quirky interface.

Brian


  reply	other threads:[~2024-11-18 14:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-11-13  9:19 [PATCH v2 1/2] iomap: fix zero padding data issue in concurrent append writes Long Li
2024-11-13  9:19 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] xfs: clean up xfs_end_ioend() to reuse local variables Long Li
2024-11-18  6:57   ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-11-13  9:44 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] iomap: fix zero padding data issue in concurrent append writes Carlos Maiolino
2024-11-13 11:38   ` Long Li
2024-11-13 12:56     ` Carlos Maiolino
2024-11-13 16:13 ` Brian Foster
2024-11-14  2:34   ` Long Li
2024-11-14 18:04     ` Brian Foster
2024-11-14 20:01       ` Dave Chinner
2024-11-15 14:03         ` Brian Foster
2024-11-15 11:53       ` Long Li
2024-11-15 13:46         ` Brian Foster
2024-11-19  1:35           ` Long Li
2024-11-18  6:56   ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-11-18 14:26     ` Brian Foster [this message]
2024-11-20  9:05       ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-11-20 13:50         ` Brian Foster
2024-11-21  5:49           ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-11-19  8:35     ` Long Li
2024-11-19 12:13       ` Brian Foster
2024-11-19 13:46         ` Long Li

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