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From: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
To: Jeff Moyer <jmoyer@redhat.com>
Cc: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	bugzilla-daemon@bugzilla.kernel.org, linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Bug 208827] [fio io_uring] io_uring write data crc32c verify failed
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 09:26:52 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a40efc10-bfe6-f600-1bda-8d6440bc6fd4@kernel.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <x49v9hnzy3s.fsf@segfault.boston.devel.redhat.com>

On 8/12/20 9:24 AM, Jeff Moyer wrote:
> Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk> writes:
> 
>> Yes, it would ideally wait, or at least trigger on the last one. I'll
>> see if I can improve that. For any of my testing, the amount of
>> triggered short reads is minimal. For the verify case that we just
>> ran, we're talking 8-12 ios out of 820 thousand, or 0.001% of them.
>> So nothing that makes a performance difference in practical terms,
>> though it would be nice to not hand back short reads if we can avoid
>> it. Not for performance reasons, but for usage reasons.
> 
> I think you could make the case that handing back a short read is a
> bug (unless RWF_NOWAIT was specified, of course).  At the very least,
> it violates the principle of least surprise, and the fact that it
> happens infrequently actually makes it a worse problem when it comes
> to debugging.

It's definitely on my list to ensure that we handle the somewhat
expected case by just retrying it internally, because I do agree that it
can be surprising. FWIW, this isn't a change with 5.9-rc, io_uring has
always potentially short buffered reads when when the io-wq offload was
done.

While it may happen infrequently with this specific test case, others
can trigger it more often.

-- 
Jens Axboe


  reply	other threads:[~2020-08-12 15:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-08-06  4:57 [Bug 208827] New: [fio io_uring] io_uring write data crc32c verify failed bugzilla-daemon
2020-08-07  2:42 ` Dave Chinner
2020-08-07  3:12 ` [Bug 208827] " bugzilla-daemon
2020-08-10  0:09   ` Dave Chinner
2020-08-10  3:56     ` Dave Chinner
2020-08-10  7:08       ` Dave Chinner
2020-08-10  9:08         ` Dave Chinner
2020-08-11  1:15           ` Jens Axboe
2020-08-11  1:50             ` Jens Axboe
2020-08-11  2:01               ` Jens Axboe
2020-08-11  3:01                 ` Jens Axboe
2020-08-11 20:56                 ` Jeff Moyer
2020-08-11 22:09                   ` Dave Chinner
2020-08-12 15:13                     ` Jens Axboe
2020-08-12 15:24                       ` Jeff Moyer
2020-08-12 15:26                         ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2020-08-11  2:00           ` Dave Chinner
2020-08-11  2:19             ` Jens Axboe
2020-08-11  5:53               ` Dave Chinner
2020-08-11  7:05               ` Dave Chinner
2020-08-11 13:10                 ` Jens Axboe
2020-08-11 21:59                   ` Dave Chinner
2020-08-11 23:00                     ` Dave Chinner
2020-08-12 15:19                       ` Jens Axboe
2020-08-11  1:07         ` Jens Axboe
2020-08-10  0:09 ` bugzilla-daemon
2020-08-10  3:56 ` bugzilla-daemon
2020-08-10  7:08 ` bugzilla-daemon
2020-08-10  9:09 ` bugzilla-daemon
2020-08-11  1:07 ` bugzilla-daemon
2020-08-11  1:15 ` bugzilla-daemon
2020-08-11  1:50 ` bugzilla-daemon
2020-08-11  2:00 ` bugzilla-daemon
2020-08-11  2:01 ` bugzilla-daemon
2020-08-11  2:20 ` bugzilla-daemon
2020-08-11  3:01 ` bugzilla-daemon
2020-08-11  5:53 ` bugzilla-daemon
2020-08-11  7:05 ` bugzilla-daemon
2020-08-11 13:10 ` bugzilla-daemon
2020-08-11 16:16 ` bugzilla-daemon
2020-08-11 20:56 ` bugzilla-daemon
2020-08-11 21:59 ` bugzilla-daemon
2020-08-11 22:09 ` bugzilla-daemon
2020-08-11 23:00 ` bugzilla-daemon
2020-08-12  3:15 ` bugzilla-daemon
2020-08-12 15:14 ` bugzilla-daemon
2020-08-12 15:19 ` bugzilla-daemon
2020-08-12 15:24 ` bugzilla-daemon
2020-08-12 15:26 ` bugzilla-daemon

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