From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: Joanne Koong <joannelkoong@gmail.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
miklos@szeredi.hu, djwong@kernel.org, brauner@kernel.org,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org,
bernd.schubert@fastmail.fm, kernel-team@meta.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 2/8] iomap: add IOMAP_IN_MEM iomap type
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2025 21:04:20 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aEkARG3yyWSYcOu6@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJnrk1b6eB71BmE_aOS77O-=77L_r5pim6GZYg45tUQnWChHUg@mail.gmail.com>
On Tue, Jun 10, 2025 at 01:13:09PM -0700, Joanne Koong wrote:
> > synchronous ones. And if the file system fragmented the folio so badly
> > that we'll now need to do more than two reads we're still at least
> > pipelining it, although that should basically never happen with modern
> > file systems.
>
> If the filesystem wants granular folio reads, it can also just do that
> itself by calling an iomap helper (eg what iomap_adjust_read_range()
> is doing right now) in its ->read_folio() implementation, correct?
Well, nothing tells ->read_folio how much to read. But having a new
variant of read_folio that allows partial reads might still be nicer
than a iomap_folio_op. Let me draft that and see if willy or other mm
folks choke on it :)
> For fuse at least, we definitely want granular reads, since reads may
> be extremely expensive (eg it may be a network fetch) and there's
> non-trivial mempcy overhead incurred with fuse needing to memcpy read
> buffer data from userspace back to the kernel.
Ok, with that the plain ->read_folio variant is not going to fly.
> > + folio_lock(folio);
> > + if (unlikely(folio->mapping != inode->i_mapping))
> > + return 1;
> > + if (unlikely(!iomap_validate(iter)))
> > + return 1;
>
> Does this now basically mean that every caller that uses iomap for
> writes will have to implement ->iomap_valid and up the sequence
> counter anytime there's a write or truncate, in case the folio changes
> during the lock drop? Or were we already supposed to be doing this?
Not any more than before. It's is still option, but you still
very much want it to protect against races updating the mapping.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-06-11 4:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-06-06 23:37 [PATCH v1 0/8] fuse: use iomap for buffered writes + writeback Joanne Koong
2025-06-06 23:37 ` [PATCH v1 1/8] iomap: move buffered io bio logic into separate file Joanne Koong
2025-06-08 19:17 ` Anuj gupta
2025-06-09 4:44 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-09 20:01 ` Joanne Koong
2025-06-06 23:37 ` [PATCH v1 2/8] iomap: add IOMAP_IN_MEM iomap type Joanne Koong
2025-06-09 4:45 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-09 21:45 ` Joanne Koong
2025-06-10 3:39 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-10 13:27 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-10 20:13 ` Joanne Koong
2025-06-11 4:04 ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2025-06-11 6:00 ` Joanne Koong
2025-06-11 6:08 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-11 18:33 ` Joanne Koong
2025-06-11 18:50 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-06-11 23:08 ` Joanne Koong
2025-06-12 4:42 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-09 16:24 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-06-09 21:28 ` Joanne Koong
2025-06-12 3:53 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-06-06 23:37 ` [PATCH v1 3/8] iomap: add buffered write support for IOMAP_IN_MEM iomaps Joanne Koong
2025-06-09 4:56 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-09 22:45 ` Joanne Koong
2025-06-10 3:44 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-09 16:38 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-06-09 22:03 ` Joanne Koong
2025-06-12 3:54 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-06-06 23:37 ` [PATCH v1 4/8] iomap: add writepages " Joanne Koong
2025-06-09 5:32 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-09 16:57 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-06-10 3:49 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-12 3:56 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-06-09 23:15 ` Joanne Koong
2025-06-10 3:58 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-10 18:23 ` Joanne Koong
2025-06-10 18:58 ` Joanne Koong
2025-06-11 4:01 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-06 23:38 ` [PATCH v1 5/8] iomap: add iomap_writeback_dirty_folio() Joanne Koong
2025-06-09 4:51 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-09 17:14 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-06-09 23:54 ` Joanne Koong
2025-06-10 3:59 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-11 4:34 ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-06-18 4:47 ` does fuse need ->launder_folios, was: " Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-18 12:17 ` Jeff Layton
2025-06-20 18:15 ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-06-25 5:26 ` Joanne Koong
2025-06-25 6:26 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-25 16:44 ` Joanne Koong
2025-07-01 5:41 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-02 21:36 ` Joanne Koong
2025-07-02 21:47 ` Joanne Koong
2025-07-01 6:23 ` Miklos Szeredi
2025-06-09 23:30 ` Joanne Koong
2025-06-10 4:03 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-06 23:38 ` [PATCH v1 6/8] fuse: use iomap for buffered writes Joanne Koong
2025-06-06 23:38 ` [PATCH v1 7/8] fuse: use iomap for writeback Joanne Koong
2025-06-08 19:20 ` Anuj gupta
2025-06-06 23:38 ` [PATCH v1 8/8] fuse: use iomap for folio laundering Joanne Koong
2025-06-08 19:12 ` [PATCH v1 0/8] fuse: use iomap for buffered writes + writeback Anuj gupta
2025-06-09 19:59 ` Joanne Koong
2025-06-14 14:22 ` Anuj gupta
2025-06-09 4:40 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-09 12:38 ` Anuj gupta
2025-06-09 19:47 ` Joanne Koong
2025-06-10 4:04 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-10 0:47 ` Dave Chinner
2025-06-10 4:06 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-10 20:33 ` Joanne Koong
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