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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: "Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Carlos Maiolino <cem@kernel.org>, xfs <linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrey Albershteyn <aalbersh@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] xfs: speed up parent pointer operations
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2026 22:04:46 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aV33flV7zsiAeh7C@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260107000907.GM191501@frogsfrogsfrogs>

On Tue, Jan 06, 2026 at 04:09:07PM -0800, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
> In principle, yes.  For a generic xattr version you'd probably want to
> check for a large valuelen on the set side so that we don't waste time
> scanning the sf structure when we're just going to end up in remote
> value territory anyway.

Yeah.

> 
> >         It might be nice to just do this for set and remove in
> > xfs_attr_defer_add and have it handle all attr operations.
> 
> Yeah.  I think it's more logical to put these new shortcut calls in
> xfs_attr_set because we're be deciding /not/ to invoke the deferred
> xattr mechanism.

Or that, yes.

> > And for replace we should be able to optimize this even further
> > by adding a new xfs_attr_sf_replacename that just checks if the new
> > version would fit, and then memmove everything behind the changed
> > attr and update it in place.  This should improve the operation a lot
> > more.
> 
> That would depends on the frequency of non-parent pointer xattr
> operations where the value doesn't change size modulo the rounding
> factor.

Well, the same applies to value changes - in the shortform format name
and value are basically one blob, split by namelen.  So anything
replacing an existing attr with a new one, either due to a name change
for parent pointers, or due to a value change otherwise can just move
things beyond the attribute and update in place trivially.  For
replacing values with values of the same size things are even simpler.

> I also wonder how much benefit anyone really gets from doing this to
> regular xattrs, but once I'm more convinced that it's solid w.r.t.
> parent pointers it's trivial to move it to xattrs too.

Not sure what counts as regular, but I'm pretty sure it would help
quite a bit for inheriting xattrs or other security attributes.


  reply	other threads:[~2026-01-07  6:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-12-19 15:41 [PATCH] xfs: speed up parent pointer operations Darrick J. Wong
2026-01-06  8:16 ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-01-07  0:09   ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-01-07  6:04     ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2026-01-07 18:22       ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-01-08  9:30         ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-01-08 17:03           ` Darrick J. Wong

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