From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from bombadil.infradead.org (bombadil.infradead.org [198.137.202.133]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C9FEA390239 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2026 13:57:59 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=198.137.202.133 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1772719082; cv=none; b=sfJToMLEwrt0rGxzmn4uz0Ap34fXJXtbAFPUesJ8qx9nBtmxcWDRletwH37TNsXXjv+V0uHlE8y2hokIslH1tNCb/azRk0RLPmAI/NyVT92JB3jaNyl2SKcSFpFideaFYYN5rY56nFRvVq/fTVd99YTMMJ2wqZZVh6e5QowqInk= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1772719082; c=relaxed/simple; bh=wDMwOePKzTdJeKYOVA40XZ2n7gYWAWfDBJVNen5jMHY=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To; b=UhbTGeWdbHbujzllLgY0RR2j1B7vfPvOsQgw4tGQkn0Vm8/ZmSxbCIgN4P4dN8uMazkYg/MQOIoIJJRVF3LA0jFaDw/EHWpm9i7XMxTRqGyUGbH9zh3069kYH2szbt3GX47rnyrHQ2Bxzuo+qJz42L6DVGTYUztwnuAA/BOZtL8= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=infradead.org; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=bombadil.srs.infradead.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=infradead.org header.i=@infradead.org header.b=WvHYPR5+; arc=none smtp.client-ip=198.137.202.133 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=infradead.org Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=bombadil.srs.infradead.org Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=infradead.org header.i=@infradead.org header.b="WvHYPR5+" DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infradead.org; s=bombadil.20210309; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version :References:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date:Sender:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description; bh=n52lGP9PDJ/tFqde4M3vxRVkG+GcQHeL/mIVc5Vr9TQ=; b=WvHYPR5+K/DOL628gr09t48oud Cbzz+/ScFKhCSYqLsMW9XMX0blAHVilj46YDmhiMVkESKfugqG1aG82cW2Wgivben0AlQQ1yyRc6h y1pp400BOHRouWUUg9WBOTqS463/NhLYM/VpAQZlrqKwAWlF6IS3SR8KSiYp9DYmTZWtTq9O8i56l k0SxekhdI33iL8FzXqgGCbMzugRUPuCtsPxSqr6ZevxiUmVcKSnozf5vuxbzgyMYceUnXAN8hk+TZ KGN0RVhlcWbR5hl2A/bJJtzg+3FmfVH6Eg3zPiErbNkjEKbc8+HHNB6E3m9wWvoicnAa4aW7riDgp VJJ1bqrA==; Received: from hch by bombadil.infradead.org with local (Exim 4.98.2 #2 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1vy9DD-00000001ulu-0rWV; Thu, 05 Mar 2026 13:57:59 +0000 Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2026 05:57:59 -0800 From: Christoph Hellwig To: "Darrick J. Wong" Cc: Christoph Hellwig , aalbersh@kernel.org, hch@lst.de, linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH 03/26] libfrog: add support code for starting systemd services programmatically Message-ID: References: <177249783165.482027.209169366483011357.stgit@frogsfrogsfrogs> <177249783347.482027.18301046401680150712.stgit@frogsfrogsfrogs> <20260303155915.GI13868@frogsfrogsfrogs> <20260305023904.GB57948@frogsfrogsfrogs> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20260305023904.GB57948@frogsfrogsfrogs> X-SRS-Rewrite: SMTP reverse-path rewritten from by bombadil.infradead.org. See http://www.infradead.org/rpr.html On Wed, Mar 04, 2026 at 06:39:04PM -0800, Darrick J. Wong wrote: > Interim update -- just from looking at what > 'systemctl restart --no-block' does, there's quite a lot of complexity > that the CLI hides. If you ask it to start a service, it gives you back > a job object, then you can sit and wait to see what the result of the > job is, etc. The above vibecoding was actually enough to start the > service, but TBH I think the dangers of shelling out are roughly > on the same level as all the crap you have to add to talk to systemd > over libdbus. > > I'll try their mailing list, but first I have to wait for them to > approve my subscription, and only then can I ask... Eh. But yeah, I guess just sticking to the CLI might end up best.