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From: John Garry <john.g.garry@oracle.com>
To: "Ritesh Harjani (IBM)" <ritesh.list@gmail.com>,
	brauner@kernel.org, djwong@kernel.org, cem@kernel.org,
	dchinner@redhat.com, hch@lst.de
Cc: linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, ojaswin@linux.ibm.com,
	martin.petersen@oracle.com, tytso@mit.edu,
	linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 10/13] xfs: iomap COW-based atomic write support
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2025 08:54:04 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <cd05e767-0d30-483a-967f-a92673cdcba8@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8734fd79g1.fsf@gmail.com>


>> +		}
>>   		end_fsb = imap.br_startoff + imap.br_blockcount;
>>   		length = XFS_FSB_TO_B(mp, end_fsb) - offset;
>>   	}
>>   
>> -	if (imap_needs_alloc(inode, flags, &imap, nimaps))
>> +	needs_alloc = imap_needs_alloc(inode, flags, &imap, nimaps);
>> +
>> +	if (flags & IOMAP_ATOMIC) {
>> +		error = -EAGAIN;
>> +		/*
>> +		 * If we allocate less than what is required for the write
>> +		 * then we may end up with multiple mappings, which means that
>> +		 * REQ_ATOMIC-based cannot be used, so avoid this possibility.
>> +		 */
>> +		if (needs_alloc && orig_end_fsb - offset_fsb > 1)
>> +			goto out_unlock;
> 
> I have a quick question here. Based on above check it looks like
> allocation requests on a hole or the 1st time allocation (append writes)
> for a given logical range will always be done using CoW fallback
> mechanism, isn't it? 

Right, but...


> So that means HW based multi-fsblock atomic write
> request will only happen for over writes (non-discontigous extent),
> correct?

For an unwritten pre-allocated extent, we can use the REQ_ATOMIC method.

fallocate (without ZERO RANGE) would give a pre-allocated unwritten 
extent, and a write there would not technically be an overwrite.

> 
> Now, it's not always necessary that if we try to allocate an extent for
> the given range, it results into discontiguous extents. e.g. say, if the
> entire range being written to is a hole or append writes, then it might
> just allocate a single unwritten extent which is valid for doing an
> atomic write using HW/BIOs right?

Right

> And it is valid to write using unwritten extent as long as we don't have
> mixed mappings i.e. the entire range should either be unwritten or
> written for the atomic write to be untorned, correct?
> 

We can't write to discontiguous extents, and a mixed mapping would mean 
discontiguous extents.

And, as mentioned earlier, it is ok to use REQ_ATOMIC method on an 
unwritten extent.

> I am guessing this is kept intentional?
> 
Yes

Thanks,
John



  reply	other threads:[~2025-03-17  8:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-03-13 17:12 [PATCH v6 00/13] large atomic writes for xfs with CoW John Garry
2025-03-13 17:12 ` [PATCH v6 01/13] iomap: inline iomap_dio_bio_opflags() John Garry
2025-03-16 13:40   ` Ritesh Harjani
2025-03-17  6:07   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-03-13 17:12 ` [PATCH v6 02/13] iomap: comment on atomic write checks in iomap_dio_bio_iter() John Garry
2025-03-17  6:08   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-03-17  8:22     ` John Garry
2025-03-17 14:16   ` Ritesh Harjani
2025-03-13 17:13 ` [PATCH v6 03/13] iomap: rework IOMAP atomic flags John Garry
2025-03-17  6:11   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-03-17  9:05     ` John Garry
2025-03-18  5:32       ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-03-18  8:11         ` John Garry
2025-03-17 13:44   ` Ritesh Harjani
2025-03-17 14:25     ` John Garry
2025-03-13 17:13 ` [PATCH v6 04/13] xfs: pass flags to xfs_reflink_allocate_cow() John Garry
2025-03-17  6:15   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-03-17  9:17     ` John Garry
2025-03-18  5:33       ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-03-18  8:12         ` John Garry
2025-03-13 17:13 ` [PATCH v6 05/13] xfs: allow block allocator to take an alignment hint John Garry
2025-03-17  6:16   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-03-13 17:13 ` [PATCH v6 06/13] xfs: switch atomic write size check in xfs_file_write_iter() John Garry
2025-03-17  6:18   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-03-17  9:17     ` John Garry
2025-03-13 17:13 ` [PATCH v6 07/13] xfs: refactor xfs_reflink_end_cow_extent() John Garry
2025-03-17  6:19   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-03-13 17:13 ` [PATCH v6 08/13] xfs: reflink CoW-based atomic write support John Garry
2025-03-17  6:20   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-03-13 17:13 ` [PATCH v6 09/13] xfs: add XFS_REFLINK_ALLOC_EXTSZALIGN John Garry
2025-03-13 18:03   ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-03-17  6:23   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-03-13 17:13 ` [PATCH v6 10/13] xfs: iomap COW-based atomic write support John Garry
2025-03-16  6:53   ` Ritesh Harjani
2025-03-17  8:54     ` John Garry [this message]
2025-03-17 14:20       ` Ritesh Harjani
2025-03-17 14:56         ` John Garry
2025-03-18  5:35           ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-03-17  7:26   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-03-17 10:18     ` John Garry
2025-03-18  5:39       ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-03-18  8:22         ` John Garry
2025-03-18  8:32           ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-03-18 17:44             ` John Garry
2025-03-19  7:30               ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-03-19 10:24                 ` John Garry
2025-03-20  5:29                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-03-20  9:49                     ` John Garry
2025-03-20 14:12                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-03-13 17:13 ` [PATCH v6 11/13] xfs: add xfs_file_dio_write_atomic() John Garry
2025-03-17  6:41   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-03-17  9:36     ` John Garry
2025-03-18  5:43       ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-03-18  8:42         ` John Garry
2025-03-18  8:46           ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-03-18  9:12             ` John Garry
2025-03-13 17:13 ` [PATCH v6 12/13] xfs: commit CoW-based atomic writes atomically John Garry
2025-03-17  6:56   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-03-17  9:43     ` John Garry
2025-03-13 17:13 ` [PATCH v6 13/13] xfs: update atomic write max size John Garry
2025-03-17  7:25   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-03-17  9:57     ` John Garry
2025-03-18  5:47       ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-03-18  5:48 ` [PATCH v6 00/13] large atomic writes for xfs with CoW Christoph Hellwig
2025-03-18  8:44   ` John Garry

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