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From: Pavel Begunkov <asml.silence@gmail.com>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
Cc: Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	io-uring@vger.kernel.org, "Darrick J . Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>,
	linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, wu lei <uwydoc@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/1] iomap: propagate nowait to block layer
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2025 00:18:12 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d1a2948c-06fa-49ec-a5f7-0733a64d9be6@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0113b102-2bc9-4f0a-817b-54a6f2fe0a3c@gmail.com>

On 3/5/25 00:14, Pavel Begunkov wrote:
> On 3/4/25 23:49, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
>> On Tue, Mar 04, 2025 at 04:43:29PM -0700, Jens Axboe wrote:
>>> On 3/4/25 4:26 PM, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Mar 04, 2025 at 10:36:16AM -0700, Jens Axboe wrote:
>>>>> stable and actual production certainly do. Not that this should drive
>>>>> upstream development in any way, it's entirely unrelated to the problem
>>>>> at hand.
>>>>
>>>> And that's exactly what I'm saying.  Do the right thing instead of
>>>> whining about backports to old kernels.
>>>
>>> Yep we agree on that, that's obvious. What I'm objecting to is your
>>> delivery, which was personal rather than factual, which you should imho
>>> apologize for.
>>
>> I thus sincerly apologize for flaming Pavel for whining about
> 
> Again, pretty interesting choice of words, because it was more akin
> to a tantrum. I hope you don't think you'd be taken seriously after
> that, I can't, and not only from this conversation.
> 
>> backporting, but I'd still prefer he would have taken up that proposal
>> on technical grounds as I see absolutely no alternatively to
>> synchronously returning an error.
> 
> The "You have to do X" hardly reveals any details to claim "technical
> grounds". Take stable out of the question, and I would still think
> that a simple understandable fix for upstream is better than jumping
> to a major rework right away.

That is _if_ there is a simple fix, but your argument was that
it's "not very accurate", which is not very useful.

>>> And honestly pretty tiring that this needs to be said, still. Really.
>>
>> An I'm really tired of folks whining about backporting instead of
>> staying ontopic.

-- 
Pavel Begunkov


  reply	other threads:[~2025-03-05  0:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-03-04 12:18 [PATCH v2 1/1] iomap: propagate nowait to block layer Pavel Begunkov
2025-03-04 16:07 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-03-04 16:41   ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-03-04 16:59     ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-03-04 17:36       ` Jens Axboe
2025-03-04 23:26         ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-03-04 23:43           ` Jens Axboe
2025-03-04 23:49             ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-03-05  0:14               ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-03-05  0:18                 ` Pavel Begunkov [this message]
2025-03-04 17:54       ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-03-04 23:28         ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-03-04 19:22     ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-03-04 20:35       ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-03-05  0:01         ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-03-05  0:45           ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-03-05  1:34             ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-03-04 21:11 ` Dave Chinner
2025-03-04 22:47   ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-03-04 23:40     ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-03-05  1:19     ` Dave Chinner
2025-03-05 14:10       ` Christoph Hellwig

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