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From: Eric Sandeen <sandeen@redhat.com>
To: Brian Foster <bfoster@redhat.com>
Cc: "Darrick J. Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com>, linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 4/5] xfs_db: sanitize geometry on load
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 21:51:20 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d4731c23-e721-faad-9937-8256840012bb@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170114034449.GA29191@bfoster.bfoster>

On 1/13/17 9:44 PM, Brian Foster wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 08:25:47PM -0600, Eric Sandeen wrote:
>> On 1/13/17 7:35 AM, Brian Foster wrote:
>>>> +		fprintf(stderr,
>>>> +_("%s: device %s AG count is insane, but could be %u.  Limiting reads to AG 0.\n"),
>>>> +			progname, fsdevice, dblocks / sbp->sb_agblocks);
>>>> +	} else {
>>>> +		fprintf(stderr,
>>>> +_("%s: device %s AG count is insane.  Limiting reads to AG 0.\n"),
>>>> +			progname, fsdevice);
>>>> +	}
>>> For reasons like the above, I think xfs_db shouldn't be in the business
>>> of repair like validation (xfs_check notwithstanding). That said,
>>> dropping into a fixed single AG mode seems less risky than trying to
>>> surmise a valid geometry. I'd get rid of the "this might be your
>>> agcount" messaging entirely though and just replace it with something
>>> that explicitly states the filesystem is corrupted, the runtime geometry
>>> is invalid and that the user should probably run xfs_repair before doing
>>> anything.
>>
>> So keep in mind that xfs_db is for people with super xfs powers. (*)
>>
>> I wouldn't suggest repair, I'd start with 1 ag to avoid the OOM, state 
>> that clearly, and punt the problem to the admin with no other specific
>> suggestions.
>>
>>> I still like the idea of the single AG mode thing as a command line flag
>>> rather than default behavior because it requires user acknowledgement,
>>> but this is a debug tool after all, so I'll defer to Eric on that. I do
>>> think that if we create this kind of invalid runtime mode, this should
>>> be split into two patches. First, a bugfix patch for the core OOM
>>> problem (i.e., detect a wacky superblock and exit). Second, replace the
>>> exit with the single AG runtime mode thing.
>>
>> Well, the problem with a flag, I think, is that you might have already
>> unwittingly OOMed your box to find out that you need it.
>> Rebooting to try again with a flag sucks.
>>
> 
> I don't see how that is relevant. I'm not suggesting a
> --please-don't-oom-in-case-of-corruption flag. :) As mentioned
> previously, I think the bug fix here is a simple patch to detect the
> bogus superblock and exit gracefully rather than go off the rails and
> end up OOM killed.

sorry, misunderstood the 
"idea of the single AG mode thing as a command line flag" idea, I guess.
 
> From there the OOM is irrelevant and we can optionally enhance xfs_db to
> try and allow it to run in such situations. To be honest, I'm perfectly
> happy for xfs_db to exit gracefully in this situation and to leave it at
> that. I think the majority of cases where this problem occurs, the next
> logical step is to run xfs_repair. I suggested the flag approach more
> because I think it's more appropriate to do things like fabricate fs
> geometry behind a flag rather than by default. The larger point is that
> if we want this kind of enhancement, it should probably be driven more
> by a use case than an unfortunate (and probably rare) bug. I don't see
> why we need to complicate the bug fix with the fancy enhancement.

*nod*  ok, I had understood the flag idea backwards-ly I guess.

I do think that mere mortal invocations via xfs_admin need to be
handled in this "ignore agcount" case, though...

-Eric
 
> Brian
> 
>> (*) unless you are invoking it via xfs_admin.sh, dammit.  We sure wouldn't
>> want xfs_admin to exit happily, having updated only one AG.  Dammit!
>>
>> Perhaps it should set exitcode, and then xfs_admin could do something
>> like:
>>
>> 	xfs_db -c quit $DEV
>>
>> first, and check that db is able to initialize sanely before using it again
>> to perform normal admin functions.
>>
>> -Eric
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  reply	other threads:[~2017-01-14  3:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-01-12  3:06 [PATCH 0/5] xfsprogs: misc fixes Darrick J. Wong
2017-01-12  3:06 ` [PATCH 1/5] xfs_io: fix the minimum arguments to the reflink command Darrick J. Wong
2017-01-12 13:53   ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-01-12  3:06 ` [PATCH 2/5] xfs_io: fix some documentation problems Darrick J. Wong
2017-01-12 13:53   ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-01-12  3:06 ` [PATCH 3/5] xfs_io: prefix dedupe command error messages consistently Darrick J. Wong
2017-01-12 13:53   ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-01-12  3:06 ` [PATCH 4/5] xfs_db: sanitize geometry on load Darrick J. Wong
2017-01-12 14:34   ` Eric Sandeen
2017-01-12 15:09     ` Brian Foster
2017-01-12 20:41       ` Darrick J. Wong
2017-01-12 20:41   ` [PATCH v2 " Darrick J. Wong
2017-01-12 23:20     ` Eric Sandeen
2017-01-13  0:23       ` Darrick J. Wong
2017-01-13  0:32   ` [PATCH v3 " Darrick J. Wong
2017-01-13 13:35     ` Brian Foster
2017-01-14  2:25       ` Eric Sandeen
2017-01-14  3:44         ` Brian Foster
2017-01-14  3:51           ` Eric Sandeen [this message]
2017-01-14 12:53             ` Brian Foster
2017-01-14 14:59               ` Eric Sandeen
2017-01-15 14:10                 ` Brian Foster
2017-01-12  3:06 ` [PATCH 5/5] xfs_repair: strengthen geometry checks Darrick J. Wong
2017-01-14  2:13   ` Eric Sandeen
2017-01-20 20:06     ` Darrick J. Wong
2017-01-12 19:27 ` [PATCH 6/5] xfs_db: fix the 'source' command when passed as a -c option Darrick J. Wong
2017-01-12 19:34 ` [PATCH 7/5] xfs_repair.8: document dirty log conditions Darrick J. Wong
2017-01-12 19:41   ` Eric Sandeen

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