From: Pankaj Raghav <pankaj.raghav@linux.dev>
To: John Garry <john.garry@linux.dev>,
"Darrick J . Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>
Cc: Pankaj Raghav <p.raghav@samsung.com>,
cem@kernel.org, linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org,
John Garry <john.g.garry@oracle.com>,
gost.dev@samsung.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] xfs: don't limit software atomic writes by the group alignment
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2026 14:27:03 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <e96b6411-3392-480e-8cef-bdc94b8041e7@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <29380cd8-19f5-4ae7-bdb7-b7908decb474@linux.dev>
On 9/30/2026 10:42 AM, John Garry wrote:
> On 9/30/26 06:10, Pankaj Raghav (Samsung) wrote:
>>>> Just to give more context:
>>>>
>>>> Trace of calc_atomic_write_unit_max:
>>>>
>>>> mount-696 [010] 449.230543: xfs_calc_atomic_write_unit_max: dev
>>>> 259:0 ag max_write 262144 max_ioend 512 max_gsize 134217728 awu_max 512
>>>>
>>>> 2097152 comes from awumax being 512 fsblocks.
>>>>
>>>> root@debian:~# xfs_info /dev/nvme0n1
>>>> meta-data=/dev/nvme0n1 isize=512 agcount=8,
>>>> agsize=268435455 blks
>>>
>>> Well max power-of-2 factor of this is going to be 1.
>>>
>>
>> Exactly. I get that we should restrict max_opt to be 1 because the AG's
>> will not be aligned and the best we can do is one fsblock for HW based
>> atomics. Why should we restrict the max (SW atomics limit) to 1 fsblock?
>>
>
> Maybe in this case we don't need to restrict CoW-based atomics to 1 fsblock. But
> why care? I mean, you have HW support, which is so much better to use than CoW-
> based atomics, so better to config your FS to avail of them.
That is true but it is a bit strange we expose a smaller CoW based atomics when
we have HW based atomic support.
For me the main issue is this function:
static xfs_extlen_t
xfs_calc_group_awu_max(
struct xfs_mount *mp,
enum xfs_group_type type)
{
struct xfs_groups *g = &mp->m_groups[type];
struct xfs_buftarg *btp = xfs_group_type_buftarg(mp, type);
if (g->blocks == 0)
return 0;
if (btp && btp->bt_awu_min > 0)
return max_pow_of_two_factor(g->blocks);
return rounddown_pow_of_two(g->blocks);
}
Why do we take into account hardware limits when we calculate SW atomic limits?
For more context:
In my drive, I am getting odd nr_blks agsize for the drive I have when I format
it with 16k block size. This is fine because block size is aligned
with HW atomic write size. The issue comes in xfs_calc_group_awu_max where
we do max_pow_of_two_factor on blocks if HW based atomics are enabled, thereby,
awu_max is reported as 1.
So this results in the following
panky@blixen:~$ mkfs.xfs -V
mkfs.xfs version 7.1.1
panky@blixen:~$ xfs_info /mnt/atomssd/
meta-data=/dev/nvme1n1 isize=512 agcount=14, agsize=67108863 blks
= sectsz=4096 attr=2, projid32bit=1
= crc=1 finobt=1, sparse=1, rmapbt=1
= reflink=1 bigtime=1 inobtcount=1 nrext64=1
= exchange=1 metadir=0
data = bsize=16384 blocks=937558016, imaxpct=5
= sunit=0 swidth=0 blks
naming =version 2 bsize=16384 ascii-ci=0, ftype=1, parent=1
log =internal log bsize=16384 blocks=130432, version=2
= sectsz=4096 sunit=1 blks, lazy-count=1
realtime =none extsz=16384 blocks=0, rtextents=0
= rgcount=0 rgsize=0 extents
= zoned=0 start=0 reserved=0
root@blixen:~# trace-cmd report
cpus=8
mount-4432 [005] ..... 24183.039820:
xfs_calc_atomic_write_unit_max: dev 259:2 ag max_write 131072 max_ioend 4096
max_gsize 1 awu_max 1
mount-4432 [005] ..... 24183.039820:
xfs_calc_atomic_write_unit_max: dev 259:2 rtg max_write 131072 max_ioend 4096
max_gsize 0 awu_max 0
panky@blixen:~/tools$ sudo ./statx /mnt/atomssd/hello.txt
/mnt/atomssd/hello.txt:
stx_atomic_write_unit_min: 16384
stx_atomic_write_unit_max: 16384
stx_atomic_write_unit_max_opt: 0
stx_atomic_write_segments_max: 1
I hope I have explained the issue clearly now.
--
Pankaj
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-09-30 12:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-09-25 10:36 [PATCH] xfs: don't limit software atomic writes by the group alignment Pankaj Raghav
2026-09-25 11:44 ` John Garry
2026-09-29 7:17 ` Pankaj Raghav
2026-09-29 14:47 ` John Garry
2026-09-30 5:10 ` Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)
2026-09-30 8:42 ` John Garry
2026-09-30 12:27 ` Pankaj Raghav [this message]
2026-09-30 12:48 ` John Garry
2026-10-01 16:30 ` Pankaj Raghav
2026-10-02 8:45 ` John Garry
2026-10-02 11:24 ` Pankaj Raghav
2026-09-29 16:40 ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-09-29 20:42 ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-09-30 8:48 ` Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)
2026-10-07 17:43 ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-10-05 11:02 ` John Garry
2026-10-05 11:02 ` John Garry
2026-10-05 16:24 ` Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)
2026-10-06 7:06 ` John Garry
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