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From: Alberto Garcia <berto@igalia.com>
To: Brian Foster <bfoster@redhat.com>, Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
	Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy <vsementsov@virtuozzo.com>,
	qemu-block@nongnu.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	Max Reitz <mreitz@redhat.com>,
	linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/1] qcow2: Skip copy-on-write when allocating a zero cluster
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2020 14:12:32 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <w51zh6oi4en.fsf@maestria.local.igalia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <w51364gjkcj.fsf@maestria.local.igalia.com>

On Fri 21 Aug 2020 01:42:52 PM CEST, Alberto Garcia wrote:
> On Fri 21 Aug 2020 01:05:06 PM CEST, Brian Foster <bfoster@redhat.com> wrote:
>>> > 1) off: for every write request QEMU initializes the cluster (64KB)
>>> >         with fallocate(ZERO_RANGE) and then writes the 4KB of data.
>>> > 
>>> > 2) off w/o ZERO_RANGE: QEMU writes the 4KB of data and fills the rest
>>> >         of the cluster with zeroes.
>>> > 
>>> > 3) metadata: all clusters were allocated when the image was created
>>> >         but they are sparse, QEMU only writes the 4KB of data.
>>> > 
>>> > 4) falloc: all clusters were allocated with fallocate() when the image
>>> >         was created, QEMU only writes 4KB of data.
>>> > 
>>> > 5) full: all clusters were allocated by writing zeroes to all of them
>>> >         when the image was created, QEMU only writes 4KB of data.
>>> > 
>>> > As I said in a previous message I'm not familiar with xfs, but the
>>> > parts that I don't understand are
>>> > 
>>> >    - Why is (4) slower than (1)?
>>> 
>>> Because fallocate() is a full IO serialisation barrier at the
>>> filesystem level. If you do:
>>> 
>>> fallocate(whole file)
>>> <IO>
>>> <IO>
>>> <IO>
>>> .....
>>> 
>>> The IO can run concurrent and does not serialise against anything in
>>> the filesysetm except unwritten extent conversions at IO completion
>>> (see answer to next question!)
>>> 
>>> However, if you just use (4) you get:
>>> 
>>> falloc(64k)
>>>   <wait for inflight IO to complete>
>>>   <allocates 64k as unwritten>
>>> <4k io>
>>>   ....
>>> falloc(64k)
>>>   <wait for inflight IO to complete>
>>>   ....
>>>   <4k IO completes, converts 4k to written>
>>>   <allocates 64k as unwritten>
>>> <4k io>
>>> falloc(64k)
>>>   <wait for inflight IO to complete>
>>>   ....
>>>   <4k IO completes, converts 4k to written>
>>>   <allocates 64k as unwritten>
>>> <4k io>
>>>   ....
>>> 
>>
>> Option 4 is described above as initial file preallocation whereas
>> option 1 is per 64k cluster prealloc. Prealloc mode mixup aside, Berto
>> is reporting that the initial file preallocation mode is slower than
>> the per cluster prealloc mode. Berto, am I following that right?

After looking more closely at the data I can see that there is a peak of
~30K IOPS during the first 5 or 6 seconds and then it suddenly drops to
~7K for the rest of the test.

I was running fio with --ramp_time=5 which ignores the first 5 seconds
of data in order to let performance settle, but if I remove that I can
see the effect more clearly. I can observe it with raw files (in 'off'
and 'prealloc' modes) and qcow2 files in 'prealloc' mode. With qcow2 and
preallocation=off the performance is stable during the whole test.

Berto

  reply	other threads:[~2020-08-21 12:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <cover.1597416317.git.berto@igalia.com>
     [not found] ` <20200817101019.GD11402@linux.fritz.box>
     [not found]   ` <w518sedz3td.fsf@maestria.local.igalia.com>
     [not found]     ` <20200817155307.GS11402@linux.fritz.box>
     [not found]       ` <w51pn7memr7.fsf@maestria.local.igalia.com>
     [not found]         ` <20200819150711.GE10272@linux.fritz.box>
     [not found]           ` <20200819175300.GA141399@bfoster>
2020-08-20 20:03             ` [PATCH 0/1] qcow2: Skip copy-on-write when allocating a zero cluster Alberto Garcia
2020-08-20 21:58               ` Dave Chinner
2020-08-21 11:05                 ` Brian Foster
2020-08-21 11:42                   ` Alberto Garcia
2020-08-21 12:12                     ` Alberto Garcia [this message]
2020-08-21 17:02                       ` Brian Foster
2020-08-25 12:24                         ` Alberto Garcia
2020-08-25 16:54                           ` Brian Foster
2020-08-25 17:18                             ` Alberto Garcia
2020-08-25 19:47                               ` Brian Foster
2020-08-26 18:34                                 ` Alberto Garcia
2020-08-27 16:47                                   ` Brian Foster
2020-08-23 21:59                       ` Dave Chinner
2020-08-24 20:14                         ` Alberto Garcia
2020-08-21 12:59                     ` Brian Foster
2020-08-21 15:51                       ` Alberto Garcia
2020-08-23 22:16                       ` Dave Chinner
2020-08-21 16:09                 ` Alberto Garcia

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