* MPC5200 JTAG/BDM Flash Burning
@ 2005-02-09 19:31 Eric N. Johnson (ACD)
2005-02-09 20:04 ` Mark Chambers
2005-02-09 20:33 ` Wolfgang Denk
0 siblings, 2 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Eric N. Johnson (ACD) @ 2005-02-09 19:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linuxppc-embedded
I'm working on a custom MPC5200 board based heavily on the IceCube design
from Motorola/Freescale. We plan to use the u-boot bootloader.
I'm looking for a tool to allow us to burn u-boot into the flash memory on
new board (with all flash devices unprogrammed). Ideally, I'd like
something like the Jflash-linux tool used with StrongARM linux, or a
stand-along linux tool that lets us burn the memory.
Both the "MPCBDM" and "bdm4gdb" projects haven't been updated for
years. The BDM-Tools project is more active, but only seems to support
68k/Coldfire processors.
The 5200lite "IceCube" demo board came with a Metrowerks "Wiretap" BDM
interface, and a Green Hills "Slingshot" BDM module, but these seems to
require a large (and expensive) windows based "Development environment"
which is far more than we need. Are there linux based drivers for either
of these?
We may have to write our own JTAG based pin-wiggler, but this solution
tends to be extremely slow.
Thanks
Eric
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Advanced Communication Design
7901 12th Avenue South
Bloomington, MN 55425
Ph: 952-854-4000 Fax: 952-854-5774
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* Re: MPC5200 JTAG/BDM Flash Burning
2005-02-09 19:31 MPC5200 JTAG/BDM Flash Burning Eric N. Johnson (ACD)
@ 2005-02-09 20:04 ` Mark Chambers
2005-02-09 20:09 ` Jerry Van Baren
2005-02-09 20:33 ` Wolfgang Denk
1 sibling, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Mark Chambers @ 2005-02-09 20:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linuxppc-embedded, Eric N. Johnson (ACD)
> I'm working on a custom MPC5200 board based heavily on the IceCube design
> from Motorola/Freescale. We plan to use the u-boot bootloader.
>
I'm doing the same.
> I'm looking for a tool to allow us to burn u-boot into the flash memory on
> new board (with all flash devices unprogrammed). Ideally, I'd like
> something like the Jflash-linux tool used with StrongARM linux, or a
> stand-along linux tool that lets us burn the memory.
>
The BDI2000 from abatron, which in the US you probably want to get
from www.ultsol.com (send my commision to...). The difference between
the BDI product and others that my have similar spec sheets is that it
actually works, including the flash burning portions.
Once you have u-boot and/or the kernel up you can use them to update
flash.
> Both the "MPCBDM" and "bdm4gdb" projects haven't been updated for
> years. The BDM-Tools project is more active, but only seems to support
> 68k/Coldfire processors.
>
As I understand it, Freescale has not publicly released the OCD interface
so that's why it's not supported in the open source community.
> The 5200lite "IceCube" demo board came with a Metrowerks "Wiretap" BDM
> interface, and a Green Hills "Slingshot" BDM module, but these seems to
> require a large (and expensive) windows based "Development environment"
> which is far more than we need. Are there linux based drivers for either
> of these?
>
You could also look at magraigor.com. I had problems with their 5200 device
but they've probably got them worked out by now.
Mark Chambers
P.S. Love the way you play the guitar!
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* Re: MPC5200 JTAG/BDM Flash Burning
2005-02-09 20:04 ` Mark Chambers
@ 2005-02-09 20:09 ` Jerry Van Baren
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From: Jerry Van Baren @ 2005-02-09 20:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Mark Chambers; +Cc: linuxppc-embedded
Mark Chambers wrote:
>
> You could also look at magraigor.com. I had problems with their 5200 device
> but they've probably got them worked out by now.
>
> Mark Chambers
That is http://macraigor.com/ of course ;-).
gvb
P.S. The BDI2000 gets my endorsement (disclaimer: my experience is with
the 82xx family, not the 5200). You can pay more, but why settle for less?
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* RE: MPC5200 JTAG/BDM Flash Burning
@ 2005-02-09 20:22 Caruso, Nick
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From: Caruso, Nick @ 2005-02-09 20:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Jerry Van Baren, Mark Chambers; +Cc: linuxppc-embedded
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Well, I said this privately, but I guess I'll say it in public as well - we like the BDI 2000.
I don't have a huge amount of experience with it, but I can vouch that it works fine with both the lite5200 and our custom MPC5200 board. We also bought ours from Ultimate Solutions. (Hi Fahd!)
best regards,
Nick Caruso
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From: linuxppc-embedded-bounces@ozlabs.org on behalf of Jerry Van Baren
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P.S. The BDI2000 gets my endorsement (disclaimer: my experience is with
the 82xx family, not the 5200). You can pay more, but why settle for less?
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* Re: MPC5200 JTAG/BDM Flash Burning
2005-02-09 19:31 MPC5200 JTAG/BDM Flash Burning Eric N. Johnson (ACD)
2005-02-09 20:04 ` Mark Chambers
@ 2005-02-09 20:33 ` Wolfgang Denk
2005-02-09 22:16 ` Andrew Dennison
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From: Wolfgang Denk @ 2005-02-09 20:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eric N. Johnson (ACD); +Cc: linuxppc-embedded
In message <6.2.1.2.1.20050209131409.02b2b718@mail.int.acdstar.com> you wrote:
> I'm working on a custom MPC5200 board based heavily on the IceCube design
> from Motorola/Freescale. We plan to use the u-boot bootloader.
>
> I'm looking for a tool to allow us to burn u-boot into the flash memory on
> new board (with all flash devices unprogrammed). Ideally, I'd like
If you consider the fact that besides fash burning you may also want
to have a working hardware debugger, you should go for a BDI2000 -
especially for Linux, when MMU support is needed.
> Both the "MPCBDM" and "bdm4gdb" projects haven't been updated for
> years. The BDM-Tools project is more active, but only seems to support
Tha't mostly because they are just working fine for the class of
devices they have been designed for. The MPC5200 has no BDM
interface, but a JTAG based debug interface for which it is
impossible to get the necessary specifications without an NDA - an
NDA which prevents any implementation under GPL. Complain with
Freescale.
> The 5200lite "IceCube" demo board came with a Metrowerks "Wiretap" BDM
> interface, and a Green Hills "Slingshot" BDM module, but these seems to
> require a large (and expensive) windows based "Development environment"
And they have no idea how do deal with virtual addresses.
> We may have to write our own JTAG based pin-wiggler, but this solution
> tends to be extremely slow.
It may be difficult to get the required documentation from Freescale,
and then you will probably spend more money (in terms of your time)
than you have to pay for a working tool (BDI2000).
Best regards,
Wolfgang Denk
--
Software Engineering: Embedded and Realtime Systems, Embedded Linux
Phone: (+49)-8142-66989-10 Fax: (+49)-8142-66989-80 Email: wd@denx.de
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society. - Mark Twain
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* RE: MPC5200 JTAG/BDM Flash Burning
2005-02-09 20:33 ` Wolfgang Denk
@ 2005-02-09 22:16 ` Andrew Dennison
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From: Andrew Dennison @ 2005-02-09 22:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 'Eric N. Johnson (ACD)'; +Cc: linuxppc-embedded
On , linuxppc-embedded-bounces@ozlabs.org wrote:
> In message
> <6.2.1.2.1.20050209131409.02b2b718@mail.int.acdstar.com> you wrote:
>> I'm working on a custom MPC5200 board based heavily on the IceCube
>> design from Motorola/Freescale. We plan to use the u-boot
>> bootloader.=20
>>=20
>> I'm looking for a tool to allow us to burn u-boot into the flash
>> memory on new board (with all flash devices unprogrammed). Ideally,
>> I'd like=20
>=20
> If you consider the fact that besides fash burning you may also want
> to have a working hardware debugger, you should go for a BDI2000 -
> especially for Linux, when MMU support is needed.
Get the BDI2000. I'm very glad Wolfgang talked me into it!
Use the Slingshot and Wiretap as paperweights.
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