* Re: PPC+southbridge designs
2001-10-12 13:37 mod+linuxppc-dev
@ 2001-10-12 12:09 ` Matt Porter
2001-10-12 16:14 ` Adrian Cox
2001-10-12 19:40 ` Timothy A. Seufert
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From: Matt Porter @ 2001-10-12 12:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mod+linuxppc-dev; +Cc: linuxppc-dev
On Fri, Oct 12, 2001 at 09:37:27AM -0400, mod+linuxppc-dev@mclx.com wrote:
>
> How many existing PPC-based machines incorporate one
> of those kitchen-sink southbridge chips like the VIA
> VT82C686B that are normally found in x86-based machines?
A lot of them. Hardware developers for high-end PPC embedded designs
like them as a way to get UARTs, PIC, and IDE in one dirt-cheap package.
Software developers hate them because they are evil.
--
Matt Porter
MontaVista Software, Inc.
mporter@mvista.com
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* PPC+southbridge designs
@ 2001-10-12 13:37 mod+linuxppc-dev
2001-10-12 12:09 ` Matt Porter
2001-10-12 19:40 ` Timothy A. Seufert
0 siblings, 2 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: mod+linuxppc-dev @ 2001-10-12 13:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linuxppc-dev
How many existing PPC-based machines incorporate one
of those kitchen-sink southbridge chips like the VIA
VT82C686B that are normally found in x86-based machines?
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* Re: PPC+southbridge designs
@ 2001-10-12 15:30 Michael Sokolov
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From: Michael Sokolov @ 2001-10-12 15:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linuxppc-dev, mod+linuxppc-dev
mod+linuxppc-dev@mclx.com wrote:
> How many existing PPC-based machines incorporate one
> of those kitchen-sink southbridge chips like the VIA
> VT82C686B that are normally found in x86-based machines?
SBS, the company I work for, has recently built a dual PPC 750CXe board in an
ATX form factor called Adirondack that has a VT82C686B on it. I'm SBS's Linux
software engineer and I've ported Linux 2.4 to the Adirondack. The port is in
the linuxppc_2_4_devel tree.
--
Michael Sokolov 5791 VAN ALLEN WAY
Software Engineer CARLSBAD CA 92008-7321 USA
SBS Technologies, Inc. Phone: +1-760-438-6900 x2347
Communications Products or 1-888-SBS-COMM x2347
Fax: +1-760-438-6985
E-mail: msokolov@sbs.com
or msokolov@ivan.Harhan.ORG
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* Re: PPC+southbridge designs
@ 2001-10-12 16:00 Michael Sokolov
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From: Michael Sokolov @ 2001-10-12 16:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mod+linuxppc-dev, mporter; +Cc: linuxppc-dev
Matt Porter <mporter@mvista.com> wrote:
> A lot of them. Hardware developers for high-end PPC embedded designs
> like them as a way to get UARTs, PIC, and IDE in one dirt-cheap package.
> Software developers hate them because they are evil.
Yes! Nail right on the head!
MS
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* Re: PPC+southbridge designs
2001-10-12 12:09 ` Matt Porter
@ 2001-10-12 16:14 ` Adrian Cox
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From: Adrian Cox @ 2001-10-12 16:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Matt Porter; +Cc: mod+linuxppc-dev, linuxppc-dev
Matt Porter wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 12, 2001 at 09:37:27AM -0400, mod+linuxppc-dev@mclx.com wrote:
>>How many existing PPC-based machines incorporate one
>>of those kitchen-sink southbridge chips like the VIA
>>VT82C686B that are normally found in x86-based machines?
> A lot of them. Hardware developers for high-end PPC embedded designs
> like them as a way to get UARTs, PIC, and IDE in one dirt-cheap package.
> Software developers hate them because they are evil.
Once they've used them once, the hardware engineers think they're evil
as well. But I did get a 7410 system with a Via 686a up and running the
2.4-devel kernel. I think all the necessary fixes have percolated into
the main tree, except for one MIDI fix which is only in Alan Cox's kernel.
--
Adrian Cox http://www.humboldt.co.uk/
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* Re: PPC+southbridge designs
2001-10-12 13:37 mod+linuxppc-dev
2001-10-12 12:09 ` Matt Porter
@ 2001-10-12 19:40 ` Timothy A. Seufert
1 sibling, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Timothy A. Seufert @ 2001-10-12 19:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linuxppc-dev
At 9:37 AM -0400 10/12/01, mod+linuxppc-dev@mclx.com wrote:
>How many existing PPC-based machines incorporate one
>of those kitchen-sink southbridge chips like the VIA
>VT82C686B that are normally found in x86-based machines?
It may or may not be worth noting (depending on exactly how you meant
this question) that even PowerMacs contain the functional equivalent
of chips like the VT82C686B. They're Apple custom ASICs and provide
Macintosh style I/O ports, but do generally cover the same area of
functionality as a PC southbridge.
--
Tim Seufert
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