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From: msokolov@ivan.Harhan.ORG (Michael Sokolov)
To: linux-galileo@source.mvista.com, linuxppc-dev@lists.linuxppc.org
Subject: Re: EV-64260-BP & GT64260 bi_recs
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 02 18:13:19 PST	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0203210213.AA15856@ivan.Harhan.ORG> (raw)


Dan Malek <dan@embeddededge.com> wrote:

> The only reason _any_ Ethernet
> information had been passed between the bootloader and the kernel
> was for the processors with internal peripherals and a variety of
> methods that were used for retrieving the MAC address.

Yes, and this is how it should be.

Now not just for Ethernet, but for any peripherals built into the CPU, the
system controller, or the board custom logic we need bi_recs to tell the kernel
how it's wired. Like if some random peripheral chip (not PCI or somesuch, but
"system" type that we have to have hard knowledge of) has a pin that can be
tied high or low that affects its operation and the Linux driver needs to know
how it's tied, we need to have the board firmware pass this magic info via
bi_recs (now it's done either with a board #ifdef maze or .config options). I
don't think there should be .config options for things that are fixed hard in
PCB traces or in silicon, and board #ifdefs are ugly. bi_recs are the answer.
That's why I included is_rmii and phy_addr in BI_GT64260_ETH_CFG.

> There are
> already Linux methods for configuring network interfaces, we don't
> need to add another one.

Exactly. Things like 10 vs. 100 Mbps shouldn't be in bi_recs because they are
up to the user to decide and Linux already provides standard mechanisms for
them. bi_recs should be used only for stuff that's completely involuntary,
i.e., to describe how the board is wired. This way they can be completely
hidden from the user who can't override a PCB trace in software anyway.

MS

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             reply	other threads:[~2002-03-21  2:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-03-21  2:13 Michael Sokolov [this message]
2002-03-21  6:39 ` EV-64260-BP & GT64260 bi_recs Dan Malek
2002-03-31  8:32   ` Paul Mackerras
2002-04-01 18:39     ` Dan Malek
2002-04-02  5:32       ` Paul Mackerras
2002-04-02 16:33         ` Tom Rini
2002-04-02 17:29         ` Dan Malek
2002-04-02 14:42           ` Armin
2002-04-02 20:12           ` Tom Rini
2002-04-02 21:02             ` Dan Malek
2002-04-03  0:21               ` Tom Rini
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-03-27 20:09 Michael Sokolov
2002-03-27 18:53 Michael Sokolov
2002-03-27 19:37 ` benh
2002-03-27 18:34 Michael Sokolov
2002-03-27 18:32 Michael Sokolov
2002-03-27 18:46 ` benh
2002-03-27 18:03 Michael Sokolov
2002-03-27 16:16 ` Mark A. Greer
2002-03-27 16:24   ` Mark A. Greer
2002-03-27 18:40   ` benh
2002-03-27 18:02     ` Mark A. Greer
2002-03-27 18:06       ` Mark A. Greer
2002-03-27 17:32 Michael Sokolov
2002-03-27 15:46 ` Mark A. Greer
2002-03-27 17:48 ` benh
2002-03-27 15:59   ` Mark A. Greer
2002-03-27  2:37 Michael Sokolov
2002-03-26 21:52 ` benh
2002-03-27 14:15   ` Matt Porter
2002-03-27 15:10     ` Mark A. Greer
2002-03-27 15:15       ` Mark A. Greer
2002-03-27 17:47         ` benh
2002-03-28  9:14       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2002-03-27  1:35 Michael Sokolov
2002-03-26 23:48 ` Mark A. Greer
2002-03-24 16:02 Michael Sokolov
     [not found] <dan@embeddededge.com>
     [not found] ` <3C98DA15.50302@embeddededge.com>
2002-03-21  1:11   ` Murray Jensen
2002-03-21  6:50     ` Dan Malek
2002-03-21 11:05       ` Murray Jensen
2002-03-21  1:10 Michael Sokolov
2002-03-21  0:57 Michael Sokolov
2002-03-21  6:58 ` Dan Malek
2002-03-21  0:47 Michael Sokolov
     [not found] <3C98B189.78A92DFE@mvista.com>
2002-03-20 18:12 ` Wolfgang Denk
     [not found]   ` <3C98DB49.2C3A2F79@mvista.com>
2002-03-23  3:49     ` Val Henson
2002-03-20 17:11 Michael Sokolov
2002-03-20 18:06 ` Wolfgang Denk
2002-03-20 17:04 Michael Sokolov
2002-03-20 17:25 ` Tom Rini
2002-03-21 20:36 ` Troy Benjegerdes
2002-03-21 19:17   ` Mark A. Greer
2002-03-21 21:36     ` Jim Potter
     [not found] <20020320164025.31626@mailhost.mipsys.com>
2002-03-20 16:59 ` Wolfgang Denk
     [not found] <20020320155551.GD3762@opus.bloom.county>
2002-03-20 16:18 ` Wolfgang Denk
     [not found] <20020320150119.GB3762@opus.bloom.county>
2002-03-20 15:43 ` Wolfgang Denk
2002-03-20  1:02 Michael Sokolov
2002-03-20  0:43 Michael Sokolov
2002-03-19 23:00 ` Mark A. Greer
2002-03-20  7:55   ` Wolfgang Denk
2002-03-20 13:19 ` benh
2002-03-20 15:30   ` Michael Sokolov
2002-03-20 16:19     ` Tom Rini
2002-03-20 16:58       ` benh
2002-03-23  4:01         ` Val Henson
2002-03-23 13:07           ` Murray Jensen
2002-03-24 12:22             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2002-03-24 12:20           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2002-03-24 19:09             ` Val Henson
2002-03-24 16:46               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2002-03-25  8:51                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2002-03-24 18:16                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2002-03-26  2:16                 ` Val Henson
2002-03-26 10:05                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2002-03-24 19:38               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2002-03-24 16:55                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2002-03-24 17:18                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2002-03-25  0:44               ` Murray Jensen
2002-03-25 22:05                 ` Val Henson
2002-03-26  3:21             ` Val Henson
2002-03-26  4:14               ` Murray Jensen
2002-03-26 10:14               ` benh
2002-03-26 12:05                 ` Gabriel Paubert
2002-03-26 12:18                   ` benh
2002-03-26 23:24             ` Mark A. Greer
2002-03-26 21:40               ` benh
2002-03-27 15:13                 ` Mark A. Greer
     [not found] <20020320000500.GV3762@opus.bloom.county>
2002-03-20  0:28 ` Wolfgang Denk
     [not found] <20020319235815.GU3762@opus.bloom.county>
2002-03-20  0:24 ` Wolfgang Denk
     [not found] <20020319231628.GQ3762@opus.bloom.county>
2002-03-19 23:46 ` Wolfgang Denk
     [not found] <3C97A9C1.EBA150B6@mvista.com>
2002-03-19 23:36 ` Wolfgang Denk
     [not found] <20020319224420.GO3762@opus.bloom.county>
2002-03-19 23:00 ` Wolfgang Denk
2002-03-20  0:03 ` Gabriel Paubert

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