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* Re: AGP : ATI128,powerpc
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@ 2001-11-14 18:11 ` Paul Mackerras
  2001-11-15  9:20   ` Jörn Nettingsmeier
                     ` (2 more replies)
  0 siblings, 3 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Paul Mackerras @ 2001-11-14 18:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jrn Nettingsmeier
  Cc: Kevin B. Hendricks, Vincent Katz, jhartmann, linuxppc-dev

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J”rn Nettingsmeier writes:

> i've been using ben's tree for a powerbook for quite some time, and
> i used to see the same error, so i disabled agp and dri.
>
> has this been fixed lately ?
> i'm desperate for faster video. 2d performance under x is pathetic,
> and scrolling is a major pita.

Getting reasonable 2D performance for things like scrolling doesn't
need DRI and/or AGP, you just need an X server that knows how to drive
the rage 128 chip.  I'm using XFree86 4.1.0 (from debian unstable) on
my Ti powerbook and it works just fine.  I can send you my
XF86Config-4 if you like (you would need to tweak it a little for a
pismo) or you could ask Ben Herrenschmidt for the config he uses on
his pismo.

Paul.

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* Re: AGP : ATI128,powerpc
  2001-11-14 18:11 ` AGP : ATI128,powerpc Paul Mackerras
@ 2001-11-15  9:20   ` Jörn Nettingsmeier
  2001-11-15 12:16   ` running hot ! [was:Re: AGP : ATI128,powerpc] Jörn Nettingsmeier
  2001-11-15 14:23   ` TiBook-PowerBook XF86Config-4 - gpm Vincent Katz
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Jörn Nettingsmeier @ 2001-11-15  9:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: paulus; +Cc: linuxppc-dev


Paul Mackerras wrote:
>
> J?rn Nettingsmeier writes:
>
> > i've been using ben's tree for a powerbook for quite some time, and
> > i used to see the same error, so i disabled agp and dri.
> >
> > has this been fixed lately ?
> > i'm desperate for faster video. 2d performance under x is pathetic,
> > and scrolling is a major pita.
>
> Getting reasonable 2D performance for things like scrolling doesn't
> need DRI and/or AGP, you just need an X server that knows how to drive
> the rage 128 chip.  I'm using XFree86 4.1.0 (from debian unstable) on
> my Ti powerbook and it works just fine.  I can send you my
> XF86Config-4 if you like (you would need to tweak it a little for a
> pismo) or you could ask Ben Herrenschmidt for the config he uses on
> his pismo.

paul, ben, thanks a lot for your helpful replies.
i'm using a framebuffer xserver, which is of course the reason for
the sloppy scrolling.
somehow i thought you had to use a framebuffer (which, some reading
turned out, is only true for the console, not x).

best,

jörn


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* running hot ! [was:Re: AGP : ATI128,powerpc]
  2001-11-14 18:11 ` AGP : ATI128,powerpc Paul Mackerras
  2001-11-15  9:20   ` Jörn Nettingsmeier
@ 2001-11-15 12:16   ` Jörn Nettingsmeier
  2001-11-15 12:57     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
  2001-11-15 14:23   ` TiBook-PowerBook XF86Config-4 - gpm Vincent Katz
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Jörn Nettingsmeier @ 2001-11-15 12:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linuxppc-dev, Benjamin Herrenschmidt


hello *

thanks to your hints, i was able to speed up my x performance by
switching to the ati x server.
scrolling is now what god intended it to be.

i have also compiled the latest benh kernel with agp and ati
support.
all runs fine, although i have not yet been able to run 3d stuff,
probably a missing x module.

one peculiar thing: the trackpad button of my pismo gets quite hot,
which it did not do before.
it's not too extreme, but the difference to my old setup
(xfree3.3.6, framebuffer xserver, old kernel w/o agp and ati
support) where the button used to be totally cold is remarkable.

has anyone seen that, too ?

regards,

jörn


Paul Mackerras wrote:
>
> J?rn Nettingsmeier writes:
>
> > i've been using ben's tree for a powerbook for quite some time, and
> > i used to see the same error, so i disabled agp and dri.
> >
> > has this been fixed lately ?
> > i'm desperate for faster video. 2d performance under x is pathetic,
> > and scrolling is a major pita.
>
> Getting reasonable 2D performance for things like scrolling doesn't
> need DRI and/or AGP, you just need an X server that knows how to drive
> the rage 128 chip.  I'm using XFree86 4.1.0 (from debian unstable) on
> my Ti powerbook and it works just fine.  I can send you my
> XF86Config-4 if you like (you would need to tweak it a little for a
> pismo) or you could ask Ben Herrenschmidt for the config he uses on
> his pismo.
>
> Paul.
>

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phone://+49.201.491621
http://spunk.dnsalias.org
http://www.linuxdj.com/audio/lad/

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* Re: running hot ! [was:Re: AGP : ATI128,powerpc]
  2001-11-15 12:16   ` running hot ! [was:Re: AGP : ATI128,powerpc] Jörn Nettingsmeier
@ 2001-11-15 12:57     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt @ 2001-11-15 12:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jörn Nettingsmeier, linuxppc-dev


>one peculiar thing: the trackpad button of my pismo gets quite hot,
>which it did not do before.
>it's not too extreme, but the difference to my old setup
>(xfree3.3.6, framebuffer xserver, old kernel w/o agp and ati
>support) where the button used to be totally cold is remarkable.
>
>has anyone seen that, too ?

Mine gets hot too, never had any problem however.

Maybe the ATI chip is close to the trackpad ?

Ben.


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* TiBook-PowerBook XF86Config-4 - gpm
  2001-11-14 18:11 ` AGP : ATI128,powerpc Paul Mackerras
  2001-11-15  9:20   ` Jörn Nettingsmeier
  2001-11-15 12:16   ` running hot ! [was:Re: AGP : ATI128,powerpc] Jörn Nettingsmeier
@ 2001-11-15 14:23   ` Vincent Katz
  2001-11-15 14:47     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Vincent Katz @ 2001-11-15 14:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: paulus; +Cc: J”rn Nettingsmeier, Kevin B. Hendricks, jhartmann,
	linuxppc-dev


hi,
me too, i have a tibook and i'm interesting for your XF86Config-4.

I have a little probleme with the console mode and gpm (v:1.19.6), for
the cut and paste i have an alteration of the characters, i don't know
why ?

thanks

On 15 Nov 2001 05:11:22 +1100, Paul Mackerras wrote:
> J”rn Nettingsmeier writes:
>
> > i've been using ben's tree for a powerbook for quite some time, and
> > i used to see the same error, so i disabled agp and dri.
> >
> > has this been fixed lately ?
> > i'm desperate for faster video. 2d performance under x is pathetic,
> > and scrolling is a major pita.
>
> Getting reasonable 2D performance for things like scrolling doesn't
> need DRI and/or AGP, you just need an X server that knows how to drive
> the rage 128 chip.  I'm using XFree86 4.1.0 (from debian unstable) on
> my Ti powerbook and it works just fine.  I can send you my
> XF86Config-4 if you like (you would need to tweak it a little for a
> pismo) or you could ask Ben Herrenschmidt for the config he uses on
> his pismo.
>
> Paul.


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* Re: TiBook-PowerBook XF86Config-4 - gpm
  2001-11-15 14:23   ` TiBook-PowerBook XF86Config-4 - gpm Vincent Katz
@ 2001-11-15 14:47     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
  2001-11-15 16:35       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt @ 2001-11-15 14:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Vincent Katz; +Cc: paulus, linuxppc-dev


>hi,
>me too, i have a tibook and i'm interesting for your XF86Config-4.
>
>I have a little probleme with the console mode and gpm (v:1.19.6), for
>the cut and paste i have an alteration of the characters, i don't know
>why ?

This is a problem when VGA console support is enabled in the kernel
config. (Beware that if you disable it, you must make distclean before
recompiling to get proper display).

I know Geert had a fix for that, I'm not sure if that was included in
upstream sources or not as I didn't have this option checked for monthes
in my kernel.

For this machine (tipb), you should really use either the linuxppc_2_4_devel
tree or my rsync. (The only difference for you here beeing that my rsync
will bring the AGP stuff).

Ben.

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* Re: TiBook-PowerBook XF86Config-4 - gpm
  2001-11-15 14:47     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
@ 2001-11-15 16:35       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
  2001-11-15 17:33         ` Vincent Katz
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Geert Uytterhoeven @ 2001-11-15 16:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Benjamin Herrenschmidt
  Cc: Vincent Katz, Paul Mackerras, Linux/PPC Development


On Thu, 15 Nov 2001, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> >me too, i have a tibook and i'm interesting for your XF86Config-4.
> >
> >I have a little probleme with the console mode and gpm (v:1.19.6), for
> >the cut and paste i have an alteration of the characters, i don't know
> >why ?
>
> This is a problem when VGA console support is enabled in the kernel
> config. (Beware that if you disable it, you must make distclean before
> recompiling to get proper display).
>
> I know Geert had a fix for that, I'm not sure if that was included in
> upstream sources or not as I didn't have this option checked for monthes
> in my kernel.

Accepted by Linus in 2.4.13 or so.

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

						Geert

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In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But
when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that.
							    -- Linus Torvalds


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* Re: TiBook-PowerBook XF86Config-4 - gpm
  2001-11-15 16:35       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
@ 2001-11-15 17:33         ` Vincent Katz
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Vincent Katz @ 2001-11-15 17:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Geert Uytterhoeven
  Cc: Benjamin Herrenschmidt, Paul Mackerras, Linux/PPC Development


OK, i understand, i am "out", i am in 2.4.10 ;-) i try .14.
thx


On 15 Nov 2001 17:35:45 +0100, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Nov 2001, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> > >me too, i have a tibook and i'm interesting for your XF86Config-4.
> > >
> > >I have a little probleme with the console mode and gpm (v:1.19.6), for
> > >the cut and paste i have an alteration of the characters, i don't know
> > >why ?
> >
> > This is a problem when VGA console support is enabled in the kernel
> > config. (Beware that if you disable it, you must make distclean before
> > recompiling to get proper display).
> >
> > I know Geert had a fix for that, I'm not sure if that was included in
> > upstream sources or not as I didn't have this option checked for monthes
> > in my kernel.
>
> Accepted by Linus in 2.4.13 or so.
>
> Gr{oetje,eeting}s,
>
> 						Geert
>
> --
> Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org
>
> In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But
> when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that.
> 							    -- Linus Torvalds
>


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2001-11-15  9:20   ` Jörn Nettingsmeier
2001-11-15 12:16   ` running hot ! [was:Re: AGP : ATI128,powerpc] Jörn Nettingsmeier
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