* XServe G5 and Linux ? @ 2004-02-08 18:05 Harald Welte 2004-02-09 2:37 ` David D. Kilzer 2004-02-09 4:06 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt 0 siblings, 2 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: Harald Welte @ 2004-02-08 18:05 UTC (permalink / raw) To: linuxppc-dev Hi! I currently have the requirement for some 1U servers running linux, but specifically being not x86. So apart from the sparc64 systems, there's of course the Apple XServe. I have a couple of questions though: 1) Does anybody have experience running linux on the current G5 Xserve? 2) Does the 32bit PPC arch run in SMP on a dual G5 Xserve? And a minor curiosity at the end: Are there any plans to include Apple G5 support into the linux ppc64 arch at some point? Please don't misunderstand me, I'm not 'demanding' anything. I just want to get some information... and information about the linux ppc/ppc64 kernel development to be almost non-existent on the net. Thanks! -- - Harald Welte <laforge@gnumonks.org> http://www.gnumonks.org/ ============================================================================ Programming is like sex: One mistake and you have to support it your lifetime ** Sent via the linuxppc-dev mail list. See http://lists.linuxppc.org/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: XServe G5 and Linux ? 2004-02-08 18:05 XServe G5 and Linux ? Harald Welte @ 2004-02-09 2:37 ` David D. Kilzer 2004-02-09 4:06 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt 1 sibling, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: David D. Kilzer @ 2004-02-09 2:37 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Harald Welte; +Cc: linuxppc-dev Yellow Dog Linux is probably your best bet, but it looks like they're still working on a solution. http://www.yellowdoglinux.com/ Go to their online store, then click on "Apple HPC" to see the status of the Apple G5 Xserve blades. http://www.terrasoftsolutions.com/store/ Dave On Sun, Feb 08, 2004 at 07:05:39PM +0100, Harald Welte wrote: > Hi! > > I currently have the requirement for some 1U servers running linux, but > specifically being not x86. So apart from the sparc64 systems, there's > of course the Apple XServe. > > I have a couple of questions though: > > 1) Does anybody have experience running linux on the current G5 Xserve? > 2) Does the 32bit PPC arch run in SMP on a dual G5 Xserve? > > And a minor curiosity at the end: Are there any plans to include Apple > G5 support into the linux ppc64 arch at some point? > > Please don't misunderstand me, I'm not 'demanding' anything. I just > want to get some information... and information about the linux > ppc/ppc64 kernel development to be almost non-existent on the net. ** Sent via the linuxppc-dev mail list. See http://lists.linuxppc.org/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: XServe G5 and Linux ? 2004-02-08 18:05 XServe G5 and Linux ? Harald Welte 2004-02-09 2:37 ` David D. Kilzer @ 2004-02-09 4:06 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt 2004-02-09 10:36 ` Harald Welte 1 sibling, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt @ 2004-02-09 4:06 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Harald Welte; +Cc: linuxppc-dev list On Mon, 2004-02-09 at 05:05, Harald Welte wrote: > Hi! > > I currently have the requirement for some 1U servers running linux, but > specifically being not x86. So apart from the sparc64 systems, there's > of course the Apple XServe. > > I have a couple of questions though: Well, the machine hasn't yet been released, or if it has, I yet haven't had any feedback of linux running on it. > 1) Does anybody have experience running linux on the current G5 Xserve? I expect the kernel to mostly work, +/- minor adaptations that should be fairly trivial hopefully, except maybe for the thermal control. But then it depends what they changed of the chipset. The above is assuming the chipset is just the new northbridge rev and same IO chip. > 2) Does the 32bit PPC arch run in SMP on a dual G5 Xserve? Yes. Though I don't quite support 2.4 on G5s (there _is_ a booting SMP 2.4 kernel, I'm not sure how stable it is in the long run). > And a minor curiosity at the end: Are there any plans to include Apple > G5 support into the linux ppc64 arch at some point? It's beeing done, will be upstream soon hopefully. > Please don't misunderstand me, I'm not 'demanding' anything. I just > want to get some information... and information about the linux > ppc/ppc64 kernel development to be almost non-existent on the net. You know how to ask :) Ben. ** Sent via the linuxppc-dev mail list. See http://lists.linuxppc.org/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: XServe G5 and Linux ? 2004-02-09 4:06 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt @ 2004-02-09 10:36 ` Harald Welte 2004-02-09 20:57 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt 2004-02-09 22:16 ` Gabriel Paubert 0 siblings, 2 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: Harald Welte @ 2004-02-09 10:36 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Benjamin Herrenschmidt; +Cc: linuxppc-dev list On Mon, Feb 09, 2004 at 03:06:14PM +1100, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > On Mon, 2004-02-09 at 05:05, Harald Welte wrote: > > > > I currently have the requirement for some 1U servers running linux, > > but specifically being not x86. So apart from the sparc64 systems, > > there's of course the Apple XServe. > > > > I have a couple of questions though: > > Well, the machine hasn't yet been released, or if it has, I yet > haven't had any feedback of linux running on it. I see. It's just that the XServe G5 is sold cheaper than the XServe G4 (at least the dealers have a lower price). That's why I somehow feel reluctand of buying an old machine. Also, I can positively confirm that we've had a G5 XServe at the 20C3 (CCC Chaos Communication Congress) at the end of december. It was used to relay the A/V streams of the lecture halls into the congress network. So either the CCC has received an unreleased machine, or they are already sold. > > 1) Does anybody have experience running linux on the current G5 > > Xserve? > > I expect the kernel to mostly work, +/- minor adaptations that should > be fairly trivial hopefully, except maybe for the thermal control. > But then it depends what they changed of the chipset. The above is > assuming the chipset is just the new northbridge rev and same IO chip. mh. Unfortunately you're in .au now. This means I cannot just buy one of them and ship it to you for getting that initial work done. Shipping, Taxes, Customs Offices, ... would definitely over-complicate everything. > Yes. Though I don't quite support 2.4 on G5s (there _is_ a booting SMP > 2.4 kernel, I'm not sure how stable it is in the long run). ok. > > And a minor curiosity at the end: Are there any plans to include > > Apple G5 support into the linux ppc64 arch at some point? > > It's beeing done, will be upstream soon hopefully. great. Thanks again. > You know how to ask :) yes, but I know how annoying 'user' questions can be... but since there seems to be no FAQ / blog / whatever... > Ben. -- - Harald Welte <laforge@gnumonks.org> http://www.gnumonks.org/ ============================================================================ Programming is like sex: One mistake and you have to support it your lifetime ** Sent via the linuxppc-dev mail list. See http://lists.linuxppc.org/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: XServe G5 and Linux ? 2004-02-09 10:36 ` Harald Welte @ 2004-02-09 20:57 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt 2004-02-09 22:16 ` Gabriel Paubert 1 sibling, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt @ 2004-02-09 20:57 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Harald Welte; +Cc: linuxppc-dev list On Mon, 2004-02-09 at 21:36, Harald Welte wrote: > I see. It's just that the XServe G5 is sold cheaper than the XServe G4 > (at least the dealers have a lower price). That's why I somehow feel > reluctand of buying an old machine. Well, I don't quite recommend G4s in general any more ;) > Also, I can positively confirm that we've had a G5 XServe at the 20C3 > (CCC Chaos Communication Congress) at the end of december. It was used > to relay the A/V streams of the lecture halls into the congress network. Strange... I'm quite sure they are only due to shipping about now. > So either the CCC has received an unreleased machine, or they are > already sold. > > > > 1) Does anybody have experience running linux on the current G5 > > > Xserve? > > > > I expect the kernel to mostly work, +/- minor adaptations that should > > be fairly trivial hopefully, except maybe for the thermal control. > > But then it depends what they changed of the chipset. The above is > > assuming the chipset is just the new northbridge rev and same IO chip. > > mh. Unfortunately you're in .au now. This means I cannot just buy one > of them and ship it to you for getting that initial work done. > Shipping, Taxes, Customs Offices, ... would definitely over-complicate > everything. Right, on the other hands, there are chances that it just work :) And I will probably get access to one soon anyway. Ben. ** Sent via the linuxppc-dev mail list. See http://lists.linuxppc.org/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: XServe G5 and Linux ? 2004-02-09 10:36 ` Harald Welte 2004-02-09 20:57 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt @ 2004-02-09 22:16 ` Gabriel Paubert 1 sibling, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: Gabriel Paubert @ 2004-02-09 22:16 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Harald Welte; +Cc: Benjamin Herrenschmidt, linuxppc-dev list On Mon, Feb 09, 2004 at 11:36:53AM +0100, Harald Welte wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 09, 2004 at 03:06:14PM +1100, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > > On Mon, 2004-02-09 at 05:05, Harald Welte wrote: > > > > > > I currently have the requirement for some 1U servers running linux, > > > but specifically being not x86. So apart from the sparc64 systems, > > > there's of course the Apple XServe. > > > > > > I have a couple of questions though: > > > > Well, the machine hasn't yet been released, or if it has, I yet > > haven't had any feedback of linux running on it. > > I see. It's just that the XServe G5 is sold cheaper than the XServe G4 > (at least the dealers have a lower price). That's why I somehow feel > reluctand of buying an old machine. > > Also, I can positively confirm that we've had a G5 XServe at the 20C3 > (CCC Chaos Communication Congress) at the end of december. It was used > to relay the A/V streams of the lecture halls into the congress network. Wow, even before they were officially announced! I'd express some doubts about it. Apple does not let many unannounced machines in the wild AFAICT ;-) Gabriel ** Sent via the linuxppc-dev mail list. See http://lists.linuxppc.org/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
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