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From: Michael Ellerman <michael@ellerman.id.au>
To: Jon Loeliger <jdl@freescale.com>
Cc: "linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org" <linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org>,
	Michael Neuling <mikey@neuling.org>
Subject: Re: [patch][rfc]flattened device tree: Passing a dtb (blob) to Linux.
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 20:04:11 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1145383451.20176.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1145378886.5314.57.camel@cashmere.sps.mot.com>

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On Tue, 2006-04-18 at 11:48 -0500, Jon Loeliger wrote:
> On Thu, 2006-04-13 at 09:34, Michael Ellerman wrote:
> > On Thu, 2006-04-13 at 09:19 -0400, Jimi Xenidis wrote:
> > > Actually, is this even an issue? can the LMB handle repeated  
> > > reservations?
> > 
> > It can, but we were thinking about adding code to check and warn if
> > reservations overlap, because it usually indicates a bug. Although
> > that's probably ok in this case, as long as dtc gets fixed eventually.
> > Another option would be to not warn for identical reservations.
> 
> > > >>>>> NOTE: that the dtc must also not generate the blob reservation
> > > >>>>> entry.
> 
> > > >> looking passed my own world I see:
> > > >>    - iSeries: not reserving the blob at all
> > > >
> > > > That sounds right. I think having the kernel do it is definitely the
> > > > right option.
> 
> 
> OK, I'm back to reading the list and beginning to catch
> up some here...
> 
> Let me see if I understand the consensus and direction:
> 
>     1) DTC should NOT reserve its own blob space in the
>        memory map, as it does for generated ASM code now,
> 
>     2) Kernel should reserve the blob space early so as
>        not to step on itself later,
> 
>     3a) Kernel LMB handling should be modified to warn
>         for overlapping LMB reservations,
> 
> Except that Ben says:
> 
>     3b) We should make lmb_reserve() of redudant/overlapping
>         entries become harmless I think. We need to be
>         backward compatible with earlier blobs that do
>         contain themselves in the reserve map.
> 
> I think we should interpret "harmless" to be "warn" and not
> cause an error at this point in time.
> 
> I do not think we should have the blob generate its own
> reservation because it is possible that some post-processing
> (like U-Boot) can modify and extend it.  Only after that can
> the blob's true size be determined.  (Sure, it could update
> on the fly too... but double blah).
> 
> In all of this, I'm on deck for step 1) above.

Nice summary :)
I'm up for 3a, we should make redundant/overlapping reserves "harmless",
by which I mean "not an error", but there should definitely be a warning
in the dmesg - as it will _usually_ indicate a bug.

cheers

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  reply	other threads:[~2006-04-18 18:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-04-13  2:05 [patch][rfc]flattened device tree: Passing a dtb (blob) to Linux Jimi Xenidis
2006-04-13  2:15 ` Jimi Xenidis
2006-04-13  5:36   ` Michael Neuling
2006-04-13 10:37     ` Jimi Xenidis
2006-04-13 11:07       ` Michael Ellerman
2006-04-13 13:19         ` Jimi Xenidis
2006-04-13 14:34           ` Michael Ellerman
2006-04-18 16:48             ` Jon Loeliger
2006-04-18 18:04               ` Michael Ellerman [this message]
2006-04-18 18:42                 ` Jimi Xenidis
2006-04-20 15:42                 ` Jon Loeliger
2006-04-20 20:20                   ` Mark A. Greer
2006-04-13 23:12 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-04-14 12:45   ` Jimi Xenidis
2006-04-14 16:19     ` Michael Ellerman
2006-05-18 22:03 ` [PATCH] powerpc: Auto reserve of device tree blob Michael Neuling
2006-05-22 16:25   ` Jon Loeliger
2006-05-23 15:04     ` Jon Loeliger

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