From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from gate.crashing.org (gate.crashing.org [63.228.1.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by ozlabs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 643AC679F6 for ; Wed, 17 May 2006 08:04:28 +1000 (EST) Subject: Re: [Alsa-devel] [RFC] alsa integer control ranges From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt To: Jaroslav Kysela In-Reply-To: References: <1147780945.29795.110.camel@johannes> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 08:04:18 +1000 Message-Id: <1147817058.6753.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: linuxppc-dev list , Johannes Berg , ALSA development , Benjamin Berg List-Id: Linux on PowerPC Developers Mail List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , On Tue, 2006-05-16 at 14:31 +0200, Jaroslav Kysela wrote: > On Tue, 16 May 2006, Johannes Berg wrote: > > > Apparently all alsa userspace programs including alsamixer suck. Hence, > > this patch is required to make them work properly. Why is it so hard to > > do these additions/subtractions in the program or maybe even in the alsa > > library? The alsa libraries already think they know better and mess up > > all kinds of things. > > It's better to fix apps, if they are broken. Problem is, they are currently all broken (pretty much) and thus unless we want to release a driver that won't work with any current distros, we'll have to whack the ranges :( Ben.