From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Grant Grundler <grundler@parisc-linux.org>
Cc: Greg Kroah-Hartman <greg@kroah.com>,
Kyle McMartin <kyle@parisc-linux.org>,
linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org, Brice Goglin <brice@myri.com>,
shaohua.li@intel.com, linux-pci@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz,
"David S.Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC/PATCH 14/16] MPIC MSI backend
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 09:40:57 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1169851257.24996.185.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070126171928.GA22275@colo.lackof.org>
> What?!!! The whole point of the abstraction ("flat space") is
> to be able to do reverse lookups for additional information.
You may want to look at the virtual irq scheme we implemented for
powerpc, I think it could be useful for other architectures as well in
fact... One mistake I did was to put the documentation in the .h instead
of near the code though :-) asm-powerpc/irq.h is a good start to read.
The main reasons we did it in the first place are two fold:
- On pSeries and to some extent with other hypervisors, IRQ numbers can
be pretty big, from encoding the geographical informations about the
slot/irq to just being an opaque 64 bits "token" from the hypervisor. So
we need the ability to map that to/from linux smaller and flatter space.
- On a lot of machines, especially embedded (but not limited to), we
have all sort of crazy setups of cascaded controllers on cascaded
controllers. Maintaining a flat irq model covering all cases is
basically hopeless. So our remapper is designed such that each irq
"host" (or domain) defines it's own HW irq space and linux irqs can be
dynamically assigned to a pair host/hw_number.
The core provides the direct mapping linux irq (or virq) - > host/hw via
a simple array. It also provides 4 different types of reverse mapping
that the controller code can choose from for each controller:
- Legacy: Since we decided to avoid problems that linux irq 0 is always
illegal and 1...15 area always "reserved" for a 8259 if any is present
in the machine, that's the option that the 8259 uses :-) It provides a
direct 1:1 mapping of 1...15 (enables them for use basically).
- No reverse mapping: Some hypervisors are nice enough to let you
provide your virq numbers and they return them to you, so you can ask
for nothing
- Linear reverse maping: for use by things like mpic where a simple
table is good enough
- Radix tree reverse mapping: for things like pSeries with a very large
HW number space.
> > ia64 is the strong culprit
> > in this regard, and simply picks the next free number it can use
> > when a device asks for an irq.
>
> I think this is the only viable aproach to support MSI migration.
> Basing the "virq" value on bits in the addr/data pair can't migrate.
Yes. On PowerPC, the virq will stay the same, though we can change
everything underneath (HW number, addr/data pair, etc...).
> It doesn't matter how many systems "do things closer to how x86"
> works since 95% (or more) of the systems running linux are x86.
> Linux MSI support must work on x86.
Most certainly :-)
> Helping Michael make it work would be a constructive way forward.
> I think Michael has the abstraction correct so it's NOT x86 centric
> but still works optimally on x86.
I think too.
> > On x86 the only hardware we have to deal with is the 8 bit number
> > delivered to the cpu at interrupt time and the MSI registers.
>
> 8 bit number? That's the Intel Interrupt architecture definition.
> The PCI spec defines 16-bit messages for MSI. The chipsets
> can implement any number of bits they want up to that limits.
Indeed and we have MSI controllers that can deal with the full 16 bits
(the Cell Axon one for example).
> > All of
> > the rest of the x86 logic needed to translate MSI interrupts to
> > processor bus messages and the like has no registers we can set
>
> Are the EID and ID fields defined in Intel adrresses not programmable?
> Those are part of the MSI address.
And thus the logic for doing that is platform specific and in the
backend with Michael's code, I don't see where the problem is there. I
agree Michael's code is missing a few things, mostly helpers for use by
the backend for masking/unmasking via config space and "updating" the
message/address, mostly things to add to the "raw" helpers. Oh, and
MSI-X of course need to be finished.
Ben.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-01-26 22:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 143+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-01-25 8:34 [RFC/PATCH 0/16] Ops based MSI Implementation Michael Ellerman
2007-01-25 8:34 ` [RFC/PATCH 1/16] Replace pci_msi_quirk with calls to pci_no_msi() Michael Ellerman
2007-01-25 22:33 ` patch msi-replace-pci_msi_quirk-with-calls-to-pci_no_msi.patch added to gregkh-2.6 tree gregkh
2007-01-25 8:34 ` [RFC/PATCH 3/16] Combine pci_(save|restore)_msi/msix_state Michael Ellerman
2007-01-25 22:33 ` patch msi-combine-pci__msi-msix_state.patch added to gregkh-2.6 tree gregkh
2007-01-25 8:34 ` [RFC/PATCH 2/16] Remove pci_scan_msi_device() Michael Ellerman
2007-01-25 22:33 ` patch msi-remove-pci_scan_msi_device.patch added to gregkh-2.6 tree gregkh
2007-01-25 8:34 ` [RFC/PATCH 4/16] Abstract MSI suspend Michael Ellerman
2007-01-25 22:33 ` patch msi-abstract-msi-suspend.patch added to gregkh-2.6 tree gregkh
2007-01-28 8:27 ` [RFC/PATCH 4/16] Abstract MSI suspend Eric W. Biederman
2007-01-29 7:22 ` Michael Ellerman
2007-01-29 8:45 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-01-29 9:47 ` Michael Ellerman
2007-01-29 16:52 ` Grant Grundler
2007-01-29 16:57 ` Roland Dreier
2007-01-29 17:02 ` Roland Dreier
2007-01-29 17:25 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-01-29 17:32 ` Roland Dreier
2007-01-29 22:03 ` Grant Grundler
2007-01-29 17:20 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-02-01 4:24 ` Greg KH
2007-01-25 8:34 ` [RFC/PATCH 5/16] Ops based MSI implementation Michael Ellerman
2007-01-25 21:52 ` Greg KH
2007-01-25 22:05 ` Roland Dreier
2007-01-25 22:10 ` Greg KH
2007-01-26 1:02 ` Michael Ellerman
2007-01-25 8:34 ` [RFC/PATCH 6/16] Add bare metal MSI enable & disable routines Michael Ellerman
2007-01-26 5:35 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-01-25 8:34 ` [RFC/PATCH 7/16] Rip out the existing powerpc msi stubs Michael Ellerman
2007-01-25 8:34 ` [RFC/PATCH 9/16] RTAS MSI implementation Michael Ellerman
2007-01-25 8:34 ` [RFC/PATCH 8/16] Enable MSI on Powerpc Michael Ellerman
2007-01-25 8:34 ` [RFC/PATCH 10/16] Add a pci_irq_fixup for MSI via RTAS Michael Ellerman
2007-01-25 8:34 ` [RFC/PATCH 12/16] Tell firmware we support MSI Michael Ellerman
2007-01-25 8:34 ` [RFC/PATCH 11/16] Activate MSI via RTAS on pseries Michael Ellerman
2007-01-25 8:34 ` [RFC/PATCH 13/16] MPIC MSI allocator Michael Ellerman
2007-01-25 8:34 ` [RFC/PATCH 14/16] MPIC MSI backend Michael Ellerman
2007-01-26 6:43 ` Grant Grundler
2007-01-26 7:02 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-01-26 8:47 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-26 16:32 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-01-26 17:19 ` Grant Grundler
2007-01-26 17:56 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-01-26 22:48 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-27 7:01 ` Michael Ellerman
2007-01-26 22:40 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]
2007-01-27 2:11 ` David Miller
2007-01-26 22:08 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-27 6:54 ` Michael Ellerman
2007-01-26 20:50 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-26 22:46 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-01-27 2:46 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-01-27 3:02 ` David Miller
2007-01-27 4:28 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-01-27 18:30 ` Grant Grundler
2007-01-27 20:02 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-26 20:41 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-26 9:11 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-27 6:33 ` Michael Ellerman
2007-01-25 8:34 ` [RFC/PATCH 15/16] Enable MSI mappings for MPIC Michael Ellerman
2007-01-25 8:34 ` [RFC/PATCH 16/16] Activate MSI for the MPIC backend on U3 Michael Ellerman
2007-01-25 21:53 ` [RFC/PATCH 0/16] Ops based MSI Implementation Greg KH
2007-01-25 21:55 ` David Miller
2007-01-26 1:05 ` Michael Ellerman
2007-01-26 1:03 ` Michael Ellerman
2007-01-26 6:18 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-01-26 6:56 ` Grant Grundler
2007-01-26 7:15 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-01-26 7:48 ` Grant Grundler
2007-01-26 15:26 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-01-26 21:58 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-26 8:57 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-26 17:27 ` Grant Grundler
2007-01-26 20:57 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-26 21:24 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-27 5:41 ` Michael Ellerman
2007-01-28 6:16 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-01-28 8:12 ` Michael Ellerman
2007-01-28 8:36 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-01-28 20:14 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-28 20:53 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-01-28 21:17 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-28 22:36 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-01-28 23:17 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-28 23:38 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-01-28 23:51 ` David Miller
2007-01-29 0:58 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-29 1:13 ` David Miller
2007-01-29 3:17 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-29 4:19 ` David Miller
2007-01-29 4:44 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-29 5:46 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-01-29 6:08 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-31 6:52 ` David Miller
2007-01-31 7:40 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-02-01 0:55 ` David Miller
2007-01-29 0:26 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-29 0:59 ` Michael Ellerman
2007-01-28 23:31 ` David Miller
2007-01-28 23:59 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-28 23:26 ` David Miller
2007-01-28 23:25 ` David Miller
2007-01-27 4:59 ` Michael Ellerman
2007-01-28 19:40 ` [PATCH 0/6] MSI portability cleanups Eric W. Biederman
2007-01-28 19:42 ` [PATCH 1/6] msi: Kill msi_lookup_irq Eric W. Biederman
2007-01-28 19:44 ` [PATCH 2/6] msi: Remove msi_lock Eric W. Biederman
2007-01-28 19:45 ` [PATCH 3/6] msi: Fix msi_remove_pci_irq_vectors Eric W. Biederman
2007-01-28 19:47 ` [PATCH 4/6] msi: Remove attach_msi_entry Eric W. Biederman
2007-01-28 19:52 ` [PATCH 5/6] msi: Kill the msi_desc array Eric W. Biederman
2007-01-28 19:56 ` [PATCH 6/6] msi: Make MSI useable more architectures Eric W. Biederman
2007-02-01 6:08 ` patch msi-make-msi-useable-more-architectures.patch added to gregkh-2.6 tree gregkh
2007-02-01 6:07 ` patch msi-kill-the-msi_desc-array.patch " gregkh
2007-02-01 6:08 ` patch msi-remove-attach_msi_entry.patch " gregkh
2007-02-01 6:07 ` patch msi-fix-msi_remove_pci_irq_vectors.patch " gregkh
2007-02-01 6:08 ` patch msi-remove-msi_lock.patch " gregkh
2007-01-28 22:01 ` [PATCH 1/6] msi: Kill msi_lookup_irq Paul Mackerras
2007-01-28 22:18 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-02-01 6:07 ` patch msi-kill-msi_lookup_irq.patch added to gregkh-2.6 tree gregkh
2007-01-28 20:23 ` [PATCH 0/6] MSI portability cleanups Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-28 20:47 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-01-28 21:20 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-01-28 21:26 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-01-28 22:09 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-28 23:26 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-01-28 23:37 ` David Miller
2007-01-29 5:18 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-01-29 5:25 ` David Miller
2007-01-29 5:58 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-01-29 6:05 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-29 8:28 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-01-29 9:03 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-01-29 10:11 ` Michael Ellerman
2007-01-29 20:32 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-29 23:29 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-01-29 23:40 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-29 20:22 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-29 23:05 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-01-30 19:32 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-29 1:33 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-02-01 4:29 ` Greg KH
2007-01-28 23:44 ` David Miller
2007-01-28 22:11 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-01-28 23:42 ` David Miller
2007-01-28 21:34 ` Eric W. Biederman
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