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From: Jon Loeliger <jdl@freescale.com>
To: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
Cc: linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org, Timur Tabi <timur@freescale.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 10/17] bootwrapper: Add dt_set_mac_addresses().
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 10:15:16 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1174576516.6595.542.camel@ld0161-tx32> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070322000620.GC2295@localhost.localdomain>

On Wed, 2007-03-21 at 19:06, David Gibson wrote:

> I mean, does the u-boot source tree have its own copies of the dts
> files which are built into a dtb during the u-boot build process?

There are not DTS files in U-Boot anymore.  They are all
currently in the arch/powerpc/boot/dts directory, or some
other private home directory. :-)


>   Or
> do you take the dts from the kernel tree and make the dtb from that

yes.

> when you build a dtb aware u-boot for a particular machine?

Do it whenever you want.  But it has to be downloaded
to RAM or found in flash on the board by U-Boot by the
time you want to do the hand-off to Linux.  That is,
there is no need to "combine" it with U-Boot to make
it "dtb aware".  U-Boot is still built independently of
any DT[SB] file entirely.


> > Ok, I understand now, but I don't know what value it has.  I don't see 
> > the difference, from the DTS point-of-view, between
> > 
> > 	local-mac-address = [ 00 00 00 00 00 00 ]
> > and
> > 	local-mac-address = [ ? ? ? ? ? ? ];
> 
> In terms of the generated dtb output there is no difference.  Well,
> probably.  It would It's
> purely syntactic sugar / internal documentation.

Right.  It is more like "make it clear to the DTS file
reader that these fields are intended to be filled in by
the bootloader".


> Well, no.  You wanted to get rid of the property from the dts, I
> didn't.  What I'm suggesting here is an idea to addresses at least one
> possible objection to having the properties in the dts: the fact that
> with actual values there it looks like the tree is complete and it
> might not be obvious that a bootloader *must* tweak values to produce
> a working tree.

(nit) But let's not forget that there are cases where we _do_ want
the DTS to be complete too.

> I think it's useful to document in the dts that certain properties are
> expected to be there, even if their actual values have to be
> determined during boot.  This syntax allows a dts to show to someone
> reading it that a property is expected, and what its expected size is,
> but that the value must be filled in later.  It's for the benefit of
> people reading the dts, not programs.

Exactly.

jdl

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-03-22 15:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-03-16 17:26 [PATCH 00/17] bootwrapper/cuImage patches Scott Wood
2007-03-16 17:27 ` [PATCH 01/17] bootwrapper: Make ft_create_node() pay attention to the parent parameter Scott Wood
2007-03-17  1:23   ` David Gibson
2007-03-16 17:27 ` [PATCH 02/17] bootwrapper: Add dt_ops methods Scott Wood
2007-03-17  1:24   ` David Gibson
2007-03-16 17:27 ` [PATCH 03/17] bootwrapper: Add xlate_reg(), and use it to find serial registers Scott Wood
2007-03-20  3:50   ` David Gibson
2007-03-20 16:34     ` Scott Wood
2007-03-21  3:12       ` David Gibson
2007-03-21 13:49     ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-03-21 16:01       ` Scott Wood
2007-03-21 19:11         ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-03-16 17:27 ` [PATCH 04/17] bootwrapper: Make compression of the kernel image optional Scott Wood
2007-03-17  1:25   ` David Gibson
2007-03-21 15:03   ` Patch: " Milton Miller
2007-03-16 17:28 ` [PATCH 05/17] bootwrapper: misc device tree fixes Scott Wood
2007-03-21  1:51   ` David Gibson
2007-03-22 16:22     ` Scott Wood
2007-03-23  3:26       ` David Gibson
2007-03-21 13:22   ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-03-16 17:28 ` [PATCH 06/17] Document the linux,network-index property Scott Wood
2007-03-17  1:26   ` David Gibson
2007-03-21 13:30   ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-03-21 14:48     ` Yoder Stuart-B08248
2007-03-21 18:57       ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-03-22  0:29         ` David Gibson
2007-03-22 11:11           ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-03-23  3:19             ` David Gibson
2007-03-23 11:36               ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-03-23 23:59                 ` David Gibson
2007-03-24  0:23                   ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-03-23 15:00         ` Scott Wood
2007-03-23 16:42           ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-03-16 17:28 ` [PATCH 07/17] bootwrapper: Add dt_set_memory(), to fill in the /memory node Scott Wood
2007-03-17  1:26   ` David Gibson
2007-03-21 13:32     ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-03-21 23:42       ` David Gibson
2007-03-22 11:02         ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-03-23  3:24           ` David Gibson
2007-03-23  6:49             ` Stefan Roese
2007-03-23  7:40               ` David Gibson
2007-03-23 12:34             ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-03-16 17:28 ` [PATCH 08/17] bootwrapper: Make setprop accept a const buffer Scott Wood
2007-03-17  1:27   ` David Gibson
2007-03-16 17:28 ` [PATCH 09/17] bootwrapper: Add dt_set_cpu_clocks() Scott Wood
2007-03-17  1:28   ` David Gibson
2007-03-16 17:28 ` [PATCH 10/17] bootwrapper: Add dt_set_mac_addresses() Scott Wood
2007-03-17  1:31   ` David Gibson
2007-03-18  0:22     ` Timur Tabi
2007-03-18 11:56       ` David Gibson
2007-03-19 15:09         ` Timur Tabi
2007-03-20  3:59           ` David Gibson
2007-03-20 14:00             ` Timur Tabi
2007-03-21  2:54               ` David Gibson
2007-03-21 15:01                 ` Timur Tabi
2007-03-21 15:25                   ` Jerry Van Baren
2007-03-21 15:55                     ` Timur Tabi
2007-03-22  0:06                   ` David Gibson
2007-03-22 15:13                     ` Timur Tabi
2007-03-22 15:15                     ` Jon Loeliger [this message]
2007-03-23  3:22                       ` David Gibson
2007-03-23 14:38                         ` Timur Tabi
2007-03-23 16:37                           ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-03-23 16:42                             ` Timur Tabi
2007-03-23 16:51                               ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-03-23 16:54                                 ` Timur Tabi
2007-03-23 23:17                             ` David Gibson
2007-03-20 18:17           ` Jon Loeliger
2007-03-21 13:45           ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-03-21 15:15             ` Timur Tabi
2007-03-21 19:07               ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-03-21 19:10                 ` Timur Tabi
2007-03-21 19:34                   ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-03-21 19:39                     ` Timur Tabi
2007-03-21 19:48                       ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-03-21 20:03                         ` Timur Tabi
2007-03-21 20:22                           ` Olof Johansson
2007-03-21 21:58                             ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-03-21 21:54                           ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-03-21 20:34                         ` Doug Maxey
2007-03-21 22:01                           ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-03-21 13:38         ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-03-21 15:09           ` Timur Tabi
2007-03-16 17:28 ` [PATCH 11/17] bootwrapper: Make set_cmdline non-static, and accept a const buffer Scott Wood
2007-03-17  1:36   ` David Gibson
2007-03-16 17:29 ` [PATCH 12/17] bootwrapper: Make set_cmdline() create /chosen if it doesn't exist Scott Wood
2007-03-21 13:32   ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-03-16 17:29 ` [PATCH 13/17] bootwrapper: Add ppcboot.h Scott Wood
2007-03-16 17:29 ` [PATCH 14/17] bootwrapper: Add support for cuboot platforms Scott Wood
2007-03-16 17:29 ` [PATCH 15/17] bootwrapper: Add cmd_wrap_dt Scott Wood
2007-03-16 17:29 ` [PATCH 16/17] bootwrapper: Add a cuImage target Scott Wood
2007-03-16 17:29 ` [PATCH 17/17] bootwrapper: cuboot for 83xx Scott Wood

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