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From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Daniel Walker <dwalker@mvista.com>
Cc: linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org, tglx@linutronix.de,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	mingo@elte.hu, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2.6.21-rt2] PowerPC: decrementer clockevent driver
Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 13:03:10 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1179630190.32247.534.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1179628991.20925.2.camel@imap.mvista.com>

On Sat, 2007-05-19 at 19:43 -0700, Daniel Walker wrote:

> In terms of clocksources, gettimeofday() would have to switch to another
> clocksource if the decrementer started to act that way .. That's why it
> is possible to register more than one clocksource, to allow for the
> switching. The decrementer frequency doesn't change even with cpufreq? 

It's more than just gettimeofday. The linux ppc kernel port has strong
assumptions all over the place that the timbase and decrementer (which
always tick at the same rate) have a constant frequency. It might be
possible to "fix" those assumptions but right now, that is the case.

For example, nowadays, udelay() also uses the timebase. Not only
gettimeofday() & friends. The scheduler ticking too. The precise process
accounting as well, etc...

In fact, while it's never worded explicitely in the spec, it's always
been strongly in the "spirit" of the architecture that the timebase and
decrementer have a constant frequency. This is why processors like the
970 allow for an external sourcing for when they are used in setups
where the various clocks are slewed for power management.

Ben.

  reply	other threads:[~2007-05-20  3:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-05-17 17:42 [PATCH 2.6.21-rt2] PowerPC: decrementer clockevent driver Sergei Shtylyov
2007-05-17 17:47 ` Kumar Gala
2007-05-17 18:07   ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-05-17 18:17     ` Kumar Gala
2007-05-17 18:26       ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-05-17 18:31         ` Kumar Gala
2007-05-17 18:42           ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-05-18 12:39             ` Matt Sealey
2007-05-18 13:45               ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-05-18 14:28                 ` Matt Sealey
2007-05-18 14:48                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-05-18 15:37                     ` Matt Sealey
2007-05-18 16:31                     ` Kumar Gala
2007-05-18 16:50                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-05-18 16:55                         ` Matt Sealey
2007-05-18 16:52                       ` Matt Sealey
2007-07-10 10:52                         ` Gabriel Paubert
2007-07-10 14:24                           ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-07-10 23:31                             ` Paul Mackerras
2007-07-11  0:10                               ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-05-18 20:27                       ` David Miller
2007-05-18 14:56       ` Daniel Walker
2007-05-18 15:06         ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-05-18 15:39           ` Daniel Walker
2007-05-18 15:48             ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-05-19  3:33             ` Paul Mackerras
2007-05-20  2:43               ` Daniel Walker
2007-05-20  3:03                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]
2007-05-20 15:03                   ` Matt Sealey
2007-05-20 21:25                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-05-20 16:02                   ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-05-20 21:26                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-05-17 19:27 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-05-17 19:43   ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-05-17 19:50     ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-05-17 20:00       ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-05-17 20:53         ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-05-18  5:04           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-05-18  5:39             ` Dave Liu
2007-05-18  7:08               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-05-18 13:41                 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-05-18 13:48                   ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-05-18 23:27                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-05-18 23:49                     ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-05-19  0:13                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-05-30 15:56                     ` Milton Miller
2007-05-19  3:34                   ` Paul Mackerras
2007-05-24 18:25 ` [PATCH 2.6.21-rt7] PowerPC: fix clockevents for classic CPUs Sergei Shtylyov
2007-05-24 19:10   ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-10-18 14:45 ` [PATCH 2.6.21-rt2] PowerPC: decrementer clockevent driver Sergei Shtylyov
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-05-18  3:24 Albert Cahalan
2007-05-18 14:52 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-05-19  1:45   ` Albert Cahalan
2007-05-19 12:28     ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-05-19 18:22       ` Albert Cahalan

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