From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from gate.crashing.org (gate.crashing.org [63.228.1.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by ozlabs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D1327B7BF4 for ; Sat, 17 Oct 2009 05:03:52 +1100 (EST) Subject: Re: [PATCH] hvc_console: returning 0 from put_chars is not an error From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt To: Scott Wood In-Reply-To: <20091016153330.GB11838@loki.buserror.net> References: <1255557226-4403-1-git-send-email-timur@freescale.com> <200910151305.47100.borntraeger@de.ibm.com> <20091015160906.GA3730@loki.buserror.net> <200910152041.26646.borntraeger@de.ibm.com> <4AD770A9.6070509@freescale.com> <1255668405.19032.13.camel@pasglop> <20091016153330.GB11838@loki.buserror.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 05:03:24 +1100 Message-Id: <1255716204.19032.27.camel@pasglop> Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org, Linux Kernel Mailing List , Christian Borntraeger , brueckner@linux.vnet.ibm.com, Timur Tabi , Alan Cox List-Id: Linux on PowerPC Developers Mail List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , On Fri, 2009-10-16 at 10:33 -0500, Scott Wood wrote: > On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 03:46:45PM +1100, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > > On Thu, 2009-10-15 at 13:57 -0500, Scott Wood wrote: > > > I'd say the dropping approach is quite undesirable (significant > > > potential for output loss unless the buffer is huge), unless there's > > > simply no way to safely spin. Hopefully there are no such backends, but > > > if there are perhaps we can have them return some special code to > > > indicate that. > > > > Should never spin. > > Why is a hypervisor console different than a serial port in this regard? Ah sorry, yeah, struct console can I suppose, it's the tty that shouldn't. > > Best is to keep a copy in the upper layer of the pending data and throttle > > (not accept further data from tty layer) until we have managed to flush > > out that "pending" buffer. > > The data isn't coming from the tty layer -- we're talking about printk. How > do you throttle that without spinning? > > I agree that it shouldn't spin when handling tty I/O. Ben.