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From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Mitch Bradley <wmb@firmworks.com>
Cc: linux-fbdev@vger.kernel.org, wd@denx.de, dzu@denx.de,
	jrigby@gmail.com,
	devicetree-discuss <devicetree-discuss@lists.ozlabs.org>,
	linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org, Anatolij Gustschin <agust@denx.de>,
	yorksun@freescale.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] video: add support for getting video mode from device tree
Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 14:45:20 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1267415120.23523.1898.camel@pasglop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4B8A2CD7.7070305@firmworks.com>

At some stage, Grant wrote:

> > First off, I did a tiny amount of research, and I didn't find any
> > existing OpenFirmware bindings for describing video displays.
> > Otherwise, I'd suggest considering that.

There's a binding for framebuffers but it sucks big time :-) It doesn't
provide a reliable way for the OS to get to the physical address of the
fb, doesn't define outputs and mode setting, doesn't really deal with
>8bpp, etc....

On Sat, 2010-02-27 at 22:44 -1000, Mitch Bradley wrote:

> As it turns out, I'm doing exactly that - exporting verbatim EDID
> data 
> as the value of the "edid" property - for the display node on the Via 
> version of the OLPC machine.  The kernel driver uses it instead of 
> trying to obtain the EDID data from the monitor, because the builtin 
> OLPC display cannot supply EDID data through the usual hardware
> interfaces.

This is actually a common practice (though EDID is most often in
uppercase) on Apple hardware too. It has issues though in the sense that
it doesn't carry proper connector information and falls over in many
multi-head cases.

I think passing the EDID data, when available, is thus the right thing
to do indeed, however that doesn't solve two problems:

 - Where to put that property ? This is a complicated problem and we
might argue on a binding for weeks because video cards typically support
multiple outputs, etc. etc... I think the best for now is to stick as
closely as possible to the existing OF fb binding, and have "display"
nodes for each output, which can eventually contain an EDID. We might
also want to add a string that indicate the connector type. Specific
drivers might want to define additional properties here where it makes
sense such as binding of those outputs to CRTCs or such, up to you.

 - We -also- want a way to specify the "default" mode as set by the
firmware, at least on some devices. The EDID gives capabilities, and
often for LCDs also the "preferred" mode which is almost always the
"default" mode ... but could be different. In order to avoid "flicking",
the driver might wants to know what is the currently programmed mode.
For that, having split out properties makes sense, though I would like
to either prefix them all with "mode," or stick them in a sub-node of
the display@.

Cheers,
Ben.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-03-01  3:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-02-05 13:42 [PATCH v3 00/11] Update support for MPC512x Anatolij Gustschin
2010-02-05 13:42 ` [PATCH v3 01/11] powerpc/mpc5121: avoid using arch_initcall for clock init Anatolij Gustschin
2010-02-05 13:42 ` [PATCH v3 02/11] powerpc/mpc5121: Add machine restart support Anatolij Gustschin
2010-02-09 23:24   ` Wolfram Sang
2010-02-15 16:38     ` Anatolij Gustschin
2010-02-10  2:32   ` Grant Likely
2010-02-15 16:51     ` [PATCH v4 " Anatolij Gustschin
2010-02-15 20:58       ` Wolfram Sang
2010-02-05 13:42 ` [PATCH v3 03/11] rtc: Add MPC5121 Real time clock driver Anatolij Gustschin
2010-02-10  2:39   ` Grant Likely
2010-02-10 18:25     ` [rtc-linux] " Alessandro Zummo
2010-02-05 13:42 ` [PATCH v3 04/11] mtd: Add MPC5121 NAND Flash Controller driver Anatolij Gustschin
2010-02-10  2:42   ` Grant Likely
2010-03-30 13:15     ` Artem Bityutskiy
2010-02-15 17:35   ` [PATCH v4 " Anatolij Gustschin
2010-02-16  8:11     ` Artem Bityutskiy
2010-02-23 15:54       ` Kári Davíðsson
2010-02-05 13:42 ` [PATCH v3 05/11] powerpc/mpc5121: create and register NFC device Anatolij Gustschin
2010-02-05 13:42 ` [PATCH v3 06/11] dma: Add MPC512x DMA driver Anatolij Gustschin
2010-02-10  2:44   ` Grant Likely
2010-03-01 13:46   ` Anatolij Gustschin
2010-03-02  6:00     ` Dan Williams
2010-02-05 13:42 ` [PATCH v3 07/11] powerpc/fsl_soc.c: prepare for addition of mpc5121 USB code Anatolij Gustschin
2010-02-05 13:42 ` [PATCH v3 08/11] powerpc/mpc5121: add USB host support Anatolij Gustschin
2010-02-05 13:42 ` [PATCH v3 09/11] powerpc/mpc5121: shared DIU framebuffer support Anatolij Gustschin
2010-02-16 18:06   ` Grant Likely
2010-02-18 16:15     ` York Sun
2010-02-27 21:58     ` [PATCH 0/3] Rework MPC5121 DIU support (for 2.6.34) Anatolij Gustschin
2010-02-28  7:04       ` Grant Likely
2010-02-27 21:58     ` [PATCH 1/3] video: add support for getting video mode from device tree Anatolij Gustschin
2010-02-28  6:30       ` Grant Likely
2010-02-28  8:44         ` Mitch Bradley
2010-02-28 14:47           ` Grant Likely
2010-03-01  3:45           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]
2010-04-28 13:43             ` Anatolij Gustschin
2010-05-19 21:19               ` Grant Likely
2010-02-27 21:58     ` [PATCH 2/3] fbdev: fsl-diu-fb.c: allow setting panel video mode from DT Anatolij Gustschin
2010-02-28  6:52       ` Grant Likely
2010-02-27 21:58     ` [PATCH 3/3] powerpc/mpc5121: shared DIU framebuffer support Anatolij Gustschin
2010-02-28  6:50       ` Grant Likely
2010-04-28 20:28         ` Anatolij Gustschin
2010-02-27 22:09     ` [PATCH v3 09/11] " Anatolij Gustschin
2010-02-05 13:42 ` [PATCH v3 10/11] powerpc/mpc5121: update mpc5121ads DTS Anatolij Gustschin
2010-02-16 18:11   ` Grant Likely
2010-02-16 19:32     ` [PATCH] powerpc: mpc5121: correct DIU compatible property Anatolij Gustschin
2010-02-16 19:51       ` Grant Likely
2010-02-05 13:42 ` [PATCH v3 11/11] powerpc/mpc5121: Add default config for MPC5121 Anatolij Gustschin
2010-02-09  8:48 ` [PATCH v3 00/11] Update support for MPC512x Anatolij Gustschin

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