From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: sfr@canb.auug.org.au, peterz@infradead.org, fweisbec@gmail.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-next@vger.kernel.org,
hpa@zytor.com, mingo@elte.hu, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,
tglx@linutronix.de
Subject: Re: linux-next: PowerPC WARN_ON_ONCE() after merge of the final tree (tip related)
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 11:56:56 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1271383016.13059.173.camel@pasglop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100414.235557.123118153.davem@davemloft.net>
On Wed, 2010-04-14 at 23:55 -0700, David Miller wrote:
> From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
> Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 08:49:40 +0200
>
> > Btw., WARN_ON trapping on PowerPC is clearly a PowerPC bug - there's a good
> > reason we have WARN_ON versus BUG_ON - it should be fixed.
>
> I disagree, an implementation should be allowed to use the most
> efficient implementation possible for both interfaces.
Right, and I don't think the reason why we have WARN_ON vs. BUG_ON ever
had anything to do with whether it's implemented with a trap or not :-)
It's purely related to whether it's supposed to be fatal or not. Now,
there is indeed the potential problem you mention of WARN_ON being
called in places where such a trap is unsafe, but so far, this is the
first time I can remember we hit that problem so we've been getting away
with it for quite a while :-)
Now, whether the trap is or is not more efficient than an explicit test
is something that is still being debated on powerpc. It has the
advantage of not un-leafing functions (and thus not creating stack
frames, adding register reloads, etc... when not needed), basically
putting the burden of saving/restoring registers to the (hopefully) rare
path of actually taking the WARN/BUG.
We could probably manufacture something similar with careful use of
inline asm and an out of line asm trampoline.
The benefit of the trap instruction vs. conditional branches per-se is
probably nil. It's really more about the codegen impact, register
clobber due to the added function call, etc.. at least for us.
Cheers,
Ben.
> I would be using traps for both on sparc64 if that were really
> feasible on sparc64 (and actually with gcc-4.5's "asm goto" it might
> actually be now)
>
> The WARN and BUG macros, when implemented without traps, have serious
> implications for overall code size and register pressure.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-04-16 1:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-04-15 6:12 linux-next: boot failure after merge of the final tree (tip related) Stephen Rothwell
2010-04-15 6:48 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-04-15 6:49 ` linux-next: PowerPC WARN_ON_ONCE() " Ingo Molnar
2010-04-15 6:55 ` David Miller
2010-04-15 7:32 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-04-16 1:51 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-04-16 1:56 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]
2010-04-15 10:04 ` Stephen Rothwell
2010-04-15 13:00 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-04-15 14:03 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-04-15 17:15 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-04-16 10:38 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-16 12:32 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-04-15 17:24 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-04-15 17:39 ` Ingo Molnar
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