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From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: tony.luck@intel.com, Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Shan Hai <haishan.bai@gmail.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, cmetcalf@tilera.com,
	dhowells@redhat.com, paulus@samba.org, tglx@linutronix.de,
	walken@google.com, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org
Subject: Re: [RFC/PATCH] mm/futex: Fix futex writes on archs with SW tracking of dirty & young
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 08:52:06 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1311288726.25044.545.camel@pasglop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110721153606.37e6f432.akpm@linux-foundation.org>

On Thu, 2011-07-21 at 15:36 -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 14:29:22 +1000
> Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org> wrote:
> 
> > The futex code currently attempts to write to user memory within
> > a pagefault disabled section, and if that fails, tries to fix it
> > up using get_user_pages().
> > 
> > This doesn't work on archs where the dirty and young bits are
> > maintained by software, since they will gate access permission
> > in the TLB, and will not be updated by gup().
> > 
> > In addition, there's an expectation on some archs that a
> > spurious write fault triggers a local TLB flush, and that is
> > missing from the picture as well.
> > 
> > I decided that adding those "features" to gup() would be too much
> > for this already too complex function, and instead added a new
> > simpler fixup_user_fault() which is essentially a wrapper around
> > handle_mm_fault() which the futex code can call.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
> > ---
> > 
> > Shan, can you test this ? It might not fix the problem
> 
> um, what problem.  There's no description here of the user-visible
> effects of the bug hence it's hard to work out what kernel version(s)
> should receive this patch.

Shan could give you an actual example (it was in the previous thread),
but basically, livelock as the kernel keeps trying and trying the
in_atomic op and never resolves it.
 
> What kernel version(s) should receive this patch?

I haven't dug. Probably anything it applies on as far as we did that
trick of atomic + gup() for futex.

> > since I'm
> > starting to have the nasty feeling that you are hitting what is
> > somewhat a subtly different issue or my previous patch should
> > have worked (but then I might have done a stupid mistake as well)
> > but let us know anyway.
> 
> I assume that Shan reported the secret problem so I added the
> reported-by to the changelog.

He did :-) Shan, care to provide a rough explanation of what you
observed ?

Also Russell confirmed that ARM should be affected as well.

Cheers,
Ben.

  reply	other threads:[~2011-07-21 22:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-07-15  8:07 [PATCH 0/1] Fixup write permission of TLB on powerpc e500 core Shan Hai
2011-07-15  8:07 ` [PATCH 1/1] " Shan Hai
2011-07-15 10:23   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-07-15 15:18     ` Shan Hai
2011-07-15 15:24       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-07-16 15:36         ` Shan Hai
2011-07-16 14:50     ` Shan Hai
2011-07-16 23:49       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-07-17  9:38         ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-07-17 14:29           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-07-17 23:14             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-07-18  3:53               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-07-18  4:02                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-07-18  4:01               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-07-18  6:48                 ` Shan Hai
2011-07-18  7:01                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-07-18  7:26                     ` Shan Hai
2011-07-18  7:36                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-07-18  7:50                         ` Shan Hai
2011-07-19  3:30                         ` Shan Hai
2011-07-19  4:20                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-07-19  4:29                           ` [RFC/PATCH] mm/futex: Fix futex writes on archs with SW tracking of dirty & young Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-07-19  4:55                             ` Shan Hai
2011-07-19  5:17                             ` Shan Hai
2011-07-19  5:24                               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-07-19  5:38                                 ` Shan Hai
2011-07-19  7:46                                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-07-19  8:24                                     ` Shan Hai
2011-07-19  8:26                                       ` [RFC/PATCH] mm/futex: Fix futex writes on archs with SW trackingof " David Laight
2011-07-19  8:45                                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-07-19  8:45                                         ` Shan Hai
2011-07-19 11:10                             ` [RFC/PATCH] mm/futex: Fix futex writes on archs with SW tracking of " Peter Zijlstra
2011-07-20 14:39                             ` Darren Hart
2011-07-21 22:36                             ` Andrew Morton
2011-07-21 22:52                               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]
2011-07-21 22:57                                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-07-21 22:59                                 ` Andrew Morton
2011-07-22  1:40                                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-07-22  1:54                                   ` Shan Hai
2011-07-27  6:50                             ` Mike Frysinger
2011-07-27  7:58                               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-07-27  8:59                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-07-27 10:09                                 ` David Howells
2011-07-27 10:17                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-07-27 10:20                                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-07-28  0:12                                       ` Mike Frysinger
2011-08-08  2:31                                     ` Mike Frysinger
2011-07-28 10:55                                   ` David Howells
2011-07-17 11:02         ` [PATCH 1/1] Fixup write permission of TLB on powerpc e500 core Peter Zijlstra
2011-07-17 13:33           ` Shan Hai
2011-07-17 14:48             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-07-17 15:40               ` Shan Hai
2011-07-17 22:34                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-07-17 14:34           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-07-15  8:20 ` [PATCH 0/1] " Peter Zijlstra
2011-07-15  8:38   ` MailingLists
2011-07-15  8:44     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-07-15  9:08       ` Shan Hai
2011-07-15  9:12         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-07-15  9:50         ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-07-15 10:06           ` Shan Hai
2011-07-15 10:32             ` David Laight
2011-07-15 10:39               ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-07-15 15:32               ` Shan Hai
2011-07-16  0:20                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-07-16 15:03                   ` Shan Hai
2011-07-15 23:47               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-07-15  9:07     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-07-15  9:05   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt

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