From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-ia0-x22e.google.com (mail-ia0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c02::22e]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority" (not verified)) by ozlabs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 381CB2C008E for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 14:33:34 +1100 (EST) Received: by mail-ia0-f174.google.com with SMTP id o25so4813242iad.33 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 19:33:30 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1359682576.3574.1.camel@kernel> Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 00/15] memory-hotplug: hot-remove physical memory From: Simon Jeons To: Jianguo Wu Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 19:36:16 -0600 In-Reply-To: <510B1B4B.5080207@huawei.com> References: <1357723959-5416-1-git-send-email-tangchen@cn.fujitsu.com> <1359463973.1624.15.camel@kernel> <5108F2B3.3090506@cn.fujitsu.com> <1359595344.1557.13.camel@kernel> <5109E59F.5080104@cn.fujitsu.com> <1359613162.1587.0.camel@kernel> <510A18FA.2010107@cn.fujitsu.com> <1359622123.1391.19.camel@kernel> <510A3CE6.202@cn.fujitsu.com> <1359628705.2048.5.camel@kernel> <510B1B4B.5080207@huawei.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org, linux-sh@vger.kernel.org, Tang Chen , linux-mm@kvack.org, paulus@samba.org, hpa@zytor.com, sparclinux@vger.kernel.org, cl@linux.com, linux-s390@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org, linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, isimatu.yasuaki@jp.fujitsu.com, linfeng@cn.fujitsu.com, mgorman@suse.de, kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com, rientjes@google.com, len.brown@intel.com, wency@cn.fujitsu.com, cmetcalf@tilera.com, glommer@parallels.com, yinghai@kernel.org, laijs@cn.fujitsu.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, minchan.kim@gmail.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org List-Id: Linux on PowerPC Developers Mail List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , On Fri, 2013-02-01 at 09:32 +0800, Jianguo Wu wrote: > On 2013/1/31 18:38, Simon Jeons wrote: > > > Hi Tang, > > On Thu, 2013-01-31 at 17:44 +0800, Tang Chen wrote: > >> Hi Simon, > >> > >> On 01/31/2013 04:48 PM, Simon Jeons wrote: > >>> Hi Tang, > >>> On Thu, 2013-01-31 at 15:10 +0800, Tang Chen wrote: > >>> > >>> 1. IIUC, there is a button on machine which supports hot-remove memory, > >>> then what's the difference between press button and echo to /sys? > >> > >> No important difference, I think. Since I don't have the machine you are > >> saying, I cannot surely answer you. :) > >> AFAIK, pressing the button means trigger the hotplug from hardware, sysfs > >> is just another entrance. At last, they will run into the same code. > >> > >>> 2. Since kernel memory is linear mapping(I mean direct mapping part), > >>> why can't put kernel direct mapping memory into one memory device, and > >>> other memory into the other devices? > >> > >> We cannot do that because in that way, we will lose NUMA performance. > >> > >> If you know NUMA, you will understand the following example: > >> > >> node0: node1: > >> cpu0~cpu15 cpu16~cpu31 > >> memory0~memory511 memory512~memory1023 > >> > >> cpu16~cpu31 access memory16~memory1023 much faster than memory0~memory511. > >> If we set direct mapping area in node0, and movable area in node1, then > >> the kernel code running on cpu16~cpu31 will have to access > >> memory0~memory511. > >> This is a terrible performance down. > > > > So if config NUMA, kernel memory will not be linear mapping anymore? For > > example, > > > > Node 0 Node 1 > > > > 0 ~ 10G 11G~14G > > > > kernel memory only at Node 0? Can part of kernel memory also at Node 1? > > > > How big is kernel direct mapping memory in x86_64? Is there max limit? > > > Max kernel direct mapping memory in x86_64 is 64TB. For example, I have 8G memory, all of them will be direct mapping for kernel? then userspace memory allocated from where? > > > It seems that only around 896MB on x86_32. > > > >> > >>> As you know x86_64 don't need > >>> highmem, IIUC, all kernel memory will linear mapping in this case. Is my > >>> idea available? If is correct, x86_32 can't implement in the same way > >>> since highmem(kmap/kmap_atomic/vmalloc) can map any address, so it's > >>> hard to focus kernel memory on single memory device. > >> > >> Sorry, I'm not quite familiar with x86_32 box. > >> > >>> 3. In current implementation, if memory hotplug just need memory > >>> subsystem and ACPI codes support? Or also needs firmware take part in? > >>> Hope you can explain in details, thanks in advance. :) > >> > >> We need firmware take part in, such as SRAT in ACPI BIOS, or the firmware > >> based memory migration mentioned by Liu Jiang. > > > > Is there any material about firmware based memory migration? > > > >> > >> So far, I only know this. :) > >> > >>> 4. What's the status of memory hotplug? Apart from can't remove kernel > >>> memory, other things are fully implementation? > >> > >> I think the main job is done for now. And there are still bugs to fix. > >> And this functionality is not stable. > >> > >> Thanks. :) > > > > > > -- > > To unsubscribe, send a message with 'unsubscribe linux-mm' in > > the body to majordomo@kvack.org. For more info on Linux MM, > > see: http://www.linux-mm.org/ . > > Don't email: email@kvack.org > > > > . > > > > >