From: Scott Wood <scottwood@freescale.com>
To: Anthony Foiani <tkil@scrye.com>
Cc: "Robert P.J.Day" <rpjday@crashcourse.ca>,
"linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org" <linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org>,
Li Yang-R58472 <r58472@freescale.com>,
Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>, Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de>
Subject: Re: ppc/sata-fsl: orphan config value: CONFIG_MPC8315_DS
Date: Wed, 1 May 2013 19:13:12 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1367453592.29231.18@snotra> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5181A6CA.9090903@scrye.com> (from tkil@scrye.com on Wed May 1 18:35:38 2013)
On 05/01/2013 06:35:38 PM, Anthony Foiani wrote:
> Scott --
>=20
> Thanks again for the quick reply.
>=20
> On 05/01/2013 12:05 PM, Scott Wood wrote:
>> On 04/30/2013 09:06:56 PM, Anthony Foiani wrote:
>>> Instead of a new property name, I would instead check for my =20
>>> specific board type (let's call it a foo-8315) in the top-level =20
>>> compatible list? So I'd change my devtree to have this top-level =20
>>> compatible:
>>>=20
>>> / {
>>> compatible =3D "example,foo-8315", "fsl,mpc8315erdb";
>>=20
>> It should really only have compatible =3D "example,foo-8315", since =20
>> it's not 100% compatible with fsl,mpc8315erdb (at least due to this =20
>> bug, but probably there are other differences as well).
>=20
> Then I guess I don't understand the proper use of "compatible" (or is =20
> the root node special?)
It's only special in that 100% compatibility is much less likely to be =20
true of an entire system than of a particular component.
> E.g., the DTS for the "parent" board (MPC8315ERDB) has multiple =20
> entries for the crypto "compatible" value:
>=20
> https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/arch=
/powerpc/boot/dts/mpc8315erdb.dts?id=3Drefs/tags/v3.9#n286
> (or: *http://preview.tinyurl.com/btlqxgo* )
>=20
> | crypto@30000 {
> compatible =3D "fsl,sec3.3", "fsl,sec3.1", =20
> "fsl,sec3.0",
> "fsl,sec2.4", "fsl,sec2.2", =20
> "fsl,sec2.1",
> "fsl,sec2.0";
> reg =3D <0x30000 0x10000>;|
>=20
> I read this as meaning: "if you have to ask if a certain feature is =20
> compatible with some 'foo', then this board provides that =20
> compatibility". Not as "if a value is in the compatibility flag, =20
> then it is 100% compatible with that value". (Although maybe that's =20
> true in the case of the SEC, so perhaps that a bad example.)
AFAIK there is backwards compatibility with these SEC versions. If =20
not, they shouldn't be listed.
> For what it's worth, the upstream vendor did have a separate =20
> root-node "compatible" value -- which called a board-specific =20
> function in a board-specific C file, both of which were direct cut & =20
> paste copies from the MPC8315ERDB function / file. My gut instinct =20
> is that this degree of duplication is unhealthy and incorrect, but if =20
> my solution is considered abuse of the device tree, then I can try to =20
> do it a different way next time.
It's quite possible to use the same C file for multiple similar boards =20
with different compatibles. This is done often, including =20
mpc831x_erdb.c.
> Given those diffs, it didn't seem much of a stretch to use compatible =20
> =3D "fsl,mpc8315erdb"
The criteria for claiming compatibility should be based in the hardware =20
itself, not whether a particular file in Linux needs any changes.
>>>> Or do you mean that you would not set this on any board's device =20
>>>> tree by default, and instead have users set it if they encounter =20
>>>> problems?
>>>=20
>>> No, I would expect to set it on all the boards, so using the =20
>>> compatibility hack above would work.
>>=20
>> You mean all the boards that have the bug, which doesn't include any =20
>> upstream device tree, right?
> As mentioned above, my primary concern is the use of these cards in =20
> the project/product I'm working on. My answer has been to apply this =20
> fix (and the matching change to the device tree I supply as a part of =20
> the boot image). I feel that I'm trying to do the right thing by =20
> getting some of these changes publicly visible, but I fear that I'll =20
> also have to go down the route of "not enough time or money to =20
> properly upstream it".
>=20
> "doesn't include upstream device tree" ... no, the device tree was =20
> supplied with the original set of patches from the vendor.
I'm not saying that the device tree not being upstream is a problem -- =20
actually the opposite, that it means we don't have compatibility to =20
maintain with an already-accepted device tree.
-Scott=
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-05-02 0:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-05-17 17:08 ppc/sata-fsl: orphan config value: CONFIG_MPC8315_DS Anthony Foiani
2012-05-21 6:31 ` Li Yang-R58472
2012-05-26 6:53 ` Anthony Foiani
2012-05-29 18:02 ` Scott Wood
2012-05-29 22:07 ` Anthony Foiani
2012-05-29 22:57 ` Scott Wood
2012-05-30 10:59 ` Li Yang
2012-05-30 20:07 ` Anthony Foiani
2012-05-30 20:14 ` Anthony Foiani
2012-05-30 20:20 ` Scott Wood
2012-05-30 20:52 ` Anthony Foiani
2013-04-30 6:41 ` Anthony Foiani
2013-04-30 18:15 ` Scott Wood
2013-05-01 0:34 ` Anthony Foiani
2013-05-01 0:42 ` Scott Wood
2013-05-01 2:06 ` Anthony Foiani
2013-05-01 18:05 ` Scott Wood
2013-05-01 23:35 ` Anthony Foiani
2013-05-02 0:13 ` Scott Wood [this message]
2013-04-30 21:35 ` Jeff Garzik
2013-05-02 6:37 ` Anthony Foiani
2013-05-08 12:04 ` Anthony Foiani
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2013-08-23 19:25 Scott Wood
2013-08-23 23:41 ` Anthony Foiani
2013-08-23 23:47 ` Scott Wood
2013-08-24 8:03 ` Anthony Foiani
2013-08-27 10:51 ` Xie Shaohui-B21989
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