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From: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
To: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
Cc: "kvm@vger.kernel.org mailing list" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Alexey Kardashevskiy <aik@ozlabs.ru>,
	Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>,
	kvm-ppc@vger.kernel.org, open list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/4] KVM: PPC: Add support for IOMMU in-kernel handling
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2013 08:28:06 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1371911286.30572.155.camel@ul30vt.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130622120304.GB25265@voom.fritz.box>

On Sat, 2013-06-22 at 22:03 +1000, David Gibson wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 08:55:13AM -0600, Alex Williamson wrote:
> > On Thu, 2013-06-20 at 18:48 +1000, Alexey Kardashevskiy wrote:
> > > On 06/20/2013 05:47 PM, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> > > > On Thu, 2013-06-20 at 15:28 +1000, David Gibson wrote:
> > > >>> Just out of curiosity - would not get_file() and fput_atomic() on a
> > > >> group's
> > > >>> file* do the right job instead of vfio_group_add_external_user() and
> > > >>> vfio_group_del_external_user()?
> > > >>
> > > >> I was thinking that too.  Grabbing a file reference would certainly be
> > > >> the usual way of handling this sort of thing.
> > > > 
> > > > But that wouldn't prevent the group ownership to be returned to
> > > > the kernel or another user would it ?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Holding the file pointer does not let the group->container_users counter go
> > > to zero
> > 
> > How so?  Holding the file pointer means the file won't go away, which
> > means the group release function won't be called.  That means the group
> > won't go away, but that doesn't mean it's attached to an IOMMU.  A user
> > could call UNSET_CONTAINER.
> 
> Uhh... *thinks*.  Ah, I see.
> 
> I think the interface should not take the group fd, but the container
> fd.  Holding a reference to *that* would keep the necessary things
> around.  But more to the point, it's the right thing semantically:
> 
> The container is essentially the handle on a host iommu address space,
> and so that's what should be bound by the KVM call to a particular
> guest iommu address space.  e.g. it would make no sense to bind two
> different groups to different guest iommu address spaces, if they were
> in the same container - the guest thinks they are different spaces,
> but if they're in the same container they must be the same space.

While the container is the gateway to the iommu, what empowers the
container to maintain an iommu is the group.  What happens to a
container when all the groups are disconnected or closed?  Groups are
the unit that indicates hardware access, not containers.  Thanks,

Alex

  reply	other threads:[~2013-06-22 14:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-05  6:11 [PATCH 0/4 v3] KVM: PPC: IOMMU in-kernel handling Alexey Kardashevskiy
2013-06-05  6:11 ` [PATCH 1/4] KVM: PPC: Add support for multiple-TCE hcalls Alexey Kardashevskiy
2013-06-16  4:20   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-06-16 22:06   ` Alexander Graf
2013-06-17  7:55     ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2013-06-17  8:02       ` Alexander Graf
2013-06-17  8:34         ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2013-06-17  8:40           ` Alexander Graf
2013-06-17  8:51             ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2013-06-17 10:46               ` Alexander Graf
2013-06-17 10:48                 ` Alexander Graf
2013-06-17  8:37       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-06-17  8:42         ` Alexander Graf
2013-06-05  6:11 ` [PATCH 2/4] powerpc: Prepare to support kernel handling of IOMMU map/unmap Alexey Kardashevskiy
2013-06-16  4:26   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-06-16  4:31     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-06-17  9:17     ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2013-06-05  6:11 ` [PATCH 3/4] KVM: PPC: Add support for IOMMU in-kernel handling Alexey Kardashevskiy
2013-06-16  4:39   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-06-19  3:17     ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2013-06-16 22:25   ` Alexander Graf
2013-06-16 22:39   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-06-17  3:13     ` Alex Williamson
2013-06-17  3:56       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-06-18  2:32         ` Alex Williamson
2013-06-18  4:38           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-06-18 14:48             ` Alex Williamson
2013-06-18 21:58               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-06-19  3:35           ` Rusty Russell
2013-06-19  4:59             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-06-19  9:58               ` Alexander Graf
2013-06-19 14:50                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-06-19 15:49                   ` Alex Williamson
2013-06-20  4:58                     ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2013-06-20  5:28                       ` David Gibson
2013-06-20  7:47                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-06-20  8:48                           ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2013-06-20 14:55                             ` Alex Williamson
2013-06-22  8:25                               ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2013-06-22 12:03                               ` David Gibson
2013-06-22 14:28                                 ` Alex Williamson [this message]
2013-06-24  3:52                                   ` David Gibson
2013-06-24  4:41                                     ` Alex Williamson
2013-06-27 11:01                                       ` David Gibson
2013-06-22 23:28                                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-06-24  3:54                                   ` David Gibson
2013-06-24  3:58                                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-06-05  6:11 ` [PATCH 4/4] KVM: PPC: Add hugepage " Alexey Kardashevskiy
2013-06-16  4:46   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-06-17 16:35   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-12  3:14 ` [PATCH 0/4 v3] KVM: PPC: " Benjamin Herrenschmidt
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2013-05-21  3:06 [PATCH 0/4 v2] " Alexey Kardashevskiy
2013-05-21  3:06 ` [PATCH 3/4] KVM: PPC: Add support for " Alexey Kardashevskiy
2013-05-22 21:06   ` Scott Wood
2013-05-25  2:45     ` David Gibson
2013-05-27  2:44       ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2013-05-28 17:45         ` Scott Wood
2013-05-28 23:30           ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2013-05-28 23:35             ` Scott Wood
2013-05-29  0:12               ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2013-05-29 20:05                 ` Scott Wood
2013-05-29 23:10                   ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2013-05-29 23:14                     ` Scott Wood
2013-05-29 23:29                       ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2013-05-29 23:32                         ` Scott Wood
2013-05-27 10:23       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-05-27 14:26         ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2013-05-27 14:41           ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-05-28 16:32       ` Scott Wood
2013-05-29  0:20         ` Alexey Kardashevskiy

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