From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from gate.crashing.org (gate.crashing.org [63.228.1.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by ozlabs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9D3D22C009A for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2013 08:13:25 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <1380751988.645.72.camel@pasglop> Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] KVM: PPC: Book3S: Add support for hwrng found on some powernv systems From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt To: Alexander Graf Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2013 08:13:08 +1000 In-Reply-To: <029A8D6C-C23C-42B2-8C26-D76B59E2C9DD@suse.de> References: <5243F933.7000907@redhat.com> <20131001083426.GB27484@concordia> <20131001083908.GA17294@redhat.com> <1380620338.645.22.camel@pasglop> <524AAFAA.3010801@redhat.com> <20131002050940.GA25363@drongo> <524BDD73.3020106@redhat.com> <1380704789.645.57.camel@pasglop> <668E4650-BC22-4CBF-A282-E7875DF29DB6@suse.de> <3CBF5732-E7EE-4C96-8132-6D7B77270DAF@suse.de> <20131002100224.GF17294@redhat.com> <1380722275.12149.28.camel@concordia> <029A8D6C-C23C-42B2-8C26-D76B59E2C9DD@suse.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: tytso@mit.edu, kvm@vger.kernel.org, Gleb Natapov , linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm-ppc@vger.kernel.org, herbert@gondor.hengli.com.au, Paul Mackerras , mpm@selenic.com, Paolo Bonzini List-Id: Linux on PowerPC Developers Mail List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , On Wed, 2013-10-02 at 16:08 +0200, Alexander Graf wrote: > A guest should live on the same permission level as a user space > application. If you run QEMU as UID 1000 without access to /dev/mem, > why should the guest suddenly be able to directly access a memory > location (MMIO) it couldn't access directly through a normal user > space interface. > > It's basically a layering violation. Guys, please stop with the academic non-sense ! Ben.