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From: Scott Wood <scottwood@freescale.com>
To: "Joseph S. Myers" <joseph@codesourcery.com>
Cc: Liu Yu <yu.liu@freescale.com>,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Shan Hai <shan.hai@windriver.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/6] powerpc: fix exception clearing in e500 SPE float emulation
Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2013 18:32:45 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1386376365.7375.209.camel@snotra.buserror.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.1311230053360.12354@digraph.polyomino.org.uk>

On Sat, 2013-11-23 at 01:22 +0000, Joseph S. Myers wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Nov 2013, Scott Wood wrote:
> 
> > This sounds like an incompatible change to userspace API.  What about
> > older glibc?  What about user code that directly manipulates these bits
> > rather than going through libc, or uses a libc other than glibc?  Where
> > is this API requirement documented?
> 
> The previous EGLIBC port, and the uClibc code copied from it, is 
> fundamentally broken as regards any use of prctl for floating-point 
> exceptions because it didn't use the PR_FP_EXC_SW_ENABLE bit in its prctl 
> calls (and did various worse things, such as passing a pointer when prctl 
> expected an integer).  If you avoid anything where prctl is used, the 
> clearing of sticky bits still means it will never give anything 
> approximating correct exception semantics with existing kernels.  I don't 
> believe the patch makes things any worse for existing code that doesn't 
> try to inform the kernel of changes to sticky bits - such code may get 
> incorrect exceptions in some cases, but it would have done so anyway in 
> other cases.

OK -- please mention this in the changelog.

> This is the best API I could come up with to fix the fundamentally broken 
> nature of what came before, taking into account that in many cases a prctl 
> call is already needed along with userspace manipulation of exception 
> bits.  I'm not aware of any kernel documentation where this sort of 
> subarchitecture-specific API detail is documented.  (The API also includes 
> such things as needing to leave the spefscr trap-enable bits set and use 
> prctl to control whether SIGFPE results from exceptions.)

I don't know of a formal place for it, but there should at least be a
code comment somewhere.

> > I think the impact of this could be reduced by using this mechanism only
> > to clear bits, rather than set them.  That is, if the exception bit is
> > unset, don't set it just because it's set in spefscr_last -- but if it's
> > not set in spefscr_last, and the emulation code doesn't want to set it,
> > then clear it.
> 
> It should already be the case in this patch that if a bit is clear in 
> spefscr, and set in spefscr_last (i.e. userspace did not inform the kernel 
> of clearing the bit, and no traps since then have resulted in the kernel 
> noticing it was cleared), it won't get set unless the emulation code wants 
> to set it.  The sole place spefscr_last is read is in the statement 
> "__FPU_FPSCR &= ~(FP_EX_INVALID | FP_EX_UNDERFLOW) | 
> current->thread.spefscr_last;" - if the bit is already clear in spefscr, 
> this statement has no effect on it.

OK -- I must have misread it before.

-Scott

  reply	other threads:[~2013-12-07  0:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-11-04 16:50 [PATCH 0/6] powerpc/math-emu: e500 SPE float emulation fixes Joseph S. Myers
2013-11-04 16:52 ` [PATCH 1/6] powerpc: fix exception clearing in e500 SPE float emulation Joseph S. Myers
2013-11-22 22:34   ` Scott Wood
2013-11-23  1:22     ` Joseph S. Myers
2013-12-07  0:32       ` Scott Wood [this message]
2013-12-07  0:48         ` questions: second of the 2 pcie controllers does not scan the bus Ruchika
2013-12-07 13:26           ` Ruchika
2013-12-09 22:50           ` Scott Wood
2013-12-10 23:07         ` [PATCHv2 1/6] powerpc: fix exception clearing in e500 SPE float emulation Joseph S. Myers
2013-11-04 16:53 ` [PATCH 2/6] powerpc: fix e500 SPE float rounding inexactness detection Joseph S. Myers
2013-11-04 16:53 ` [PATCH 3/6] math-emu: fix floating-point to integer unsigned saturation Joseph S. Myers
2013-11-04 16:54 ` [PATCH 4/6] math-emu: fix floating-point to integer overflow detection Joseph S. Myers
2013-11-04 16:54 ` [PATCH 5/6] powerpc: fix e500 SPE float to integer and fixed-point conversions Joseph S. Myers
2013-11-04 16:55 ` [PATCH 6/6] powerpc: fix e500 SPE float SIGFPE generation Joseph S. Myers
2013-11-11 14:29 ` Ping Re: [PATCH 0/6] powerpc/math-emu: e500 SPE float emulation fixes Joseph S. Myers
2013-11-18 14:54   ` Ping^2 " Joseph S. Myers
2013-11-18 19:07     ` Scott Wood

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