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From: Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>
To: Josh Boyer <jwboyer@fedoraproject.org>
Cc: Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>,
	Laura Abbott <labbott@redhat.com>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	"linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org" <linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Missing operand for tlbie instruction on Power7
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2015 11:10:36 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1444263036.31685.2.camel@ellerman.id.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+5PVA7rpTbbVRJ_ze8Fndk+uxb2c=uqjkJRk+E9_aymu2fUew@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, 2015-10-07 at 10:31 -0400, Josh Boyer wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 5:13 AM, Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au> wrote:
> > On Wed, 2015-10-07 at 02:19 -0500, Segher Boessenkool wrote:
> >> On Wed, Oct 07, 2015 at 05:00:49PM +1100, Michael Ellerman wrote:
> >> > > It's also worth noting that the __flush_power7 uses tlbiel instead of tlbie.
> >> >
> >> > Yeah that's a good point. It's not clear if the swsusp code wants to a local or
> >> > a global invalidate.
> >>
> >> If I read the code right, this is called on the boot CPU when all the
> >> non-boot CPUs are still (potentially) down, so if you would do a global
> >> invalidate the non-boot CPUs might not even notice, so those need to do
> >> a (local) invalidate after being brought up anyway?  Or they probably
> >> need it before being brought down at all?  You figure it out, it makes
> >> my brain hurt :-)
> >
> > A good rule would be that every cpu does a local invalidate before turning on
> > the MMU. That would work for this case and also for kexec, kdump, junk left by
> > firmare etc. But I don't think we do that consistently in a way that works for
> > this code at the moment.
> >
> >> > As an alternative, can you try adding a .machine push / .machine "power4" /
> >> > .machine pop, around the tlbie. That should tell the assembler to drop back to
> >> > power4 mode for that instruction, which should then do the right thing. There
> >> > are some examples in that file.
> >>
> >> That will get the assembler to not complain, but it will assemble the wrong
> >> instruction: the power7 instruction has the same opcode (but different
> >> semantics).  So if you assemble a "tlbie r4" in power4 mode, a newer CPU
> >> will see it as a "tlbie r4,r0" and do the wrong thing.
> >
> > Yeah, it would basically maintain the existing behaviour which is wrong but a
> > known quantity. I suspect no one has ever run this on Power7 or in fact
> > anything other than G5 or Book3E.
> 
> Likely not, but leaving it broken just because it is known behavior
> seems pretty weird to me.

In a universe where I have infinite time to fix random things we would
obviously do a proper fix :)

> I think Fedora will look at simply disabling hibernation on ppc64 so the file
> isn't built at all.  Seems to be a safer option.

It's safer for sure. Though you might have some G5 users who are using it and
notice it being disabled.

cheers

  reply	other threads:[~2015-10-08  0:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-10-02 15:43 Missing operand for tlbie instruction on Power7 Laura Abbott
2015-10-02 19:03 ` Denis Kirjanov
2015-10-02 20:15   ` Peter Bergner
2015-10-02 21:37     ` Denis Kirjanov
2015-10-02 22:00       ` Segher Boessenkool
2015-10-02 22:12         ` Laura Abbott
2015-10-03  2:24         ` Peter Bergner
2015-10-04  0:00           ` Segher Boessenkool
2015-10-06  0:39             ` Laura Abbott
2015-10-06  3:35 ` Michael Ellerman
2015-10-06 18:25   ` Laura Abbott
2015-10-07  6:00     ` Michael Ellerman
2015-10-07  7:19       ` Segher Boessenkool
2015-10-07  9:13         ` Michael Ellerman
2015-10-07 14:31           ` Josh Boyer
2015-10-08  0:10             ` Michael Ellerman [this message]
2015-10-08  0:15               ` Josh Boyer
2015-10-08  0:38                 ` Michael Ellerman

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