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From: Laurent Dufour <ldufour@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>
Cc: paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com, peterz@infradead.org,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, ak@linux.intel.com, mhocko@kernel.org,
	dave@stgolabs.net, jack@suse.cz,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	benh@kernel.crashing.org, mpe@ellerman.id.au, paulus@samba.org,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	hpa@zytor.com, Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	haren@linux.vnet.ibm.com, khandual@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	npiggin@gmail.com, bsingharora@gmail.com,
	Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, x86@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 05/16] mm: Protect VMA modifications using VMA sequence count
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2017 20:16:44 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <14e3185c-36e9-c9b1-25f2-98a98de94356@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170810134325.j4ijsxzc56e443of@node.shutemov.name>

On 10/08/2017 15:43, Kirill A. Shutemov wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 10:27:50AM +0200, Laurent Dufour wrote:
>> On 10/08/2017 02:58, Kirill A. Shutemov wrote:
>>> On Wed, Aug 09, 2017 at 12:43:33PM +0200, Laurent Dufour wrote:
>>>> On 09/08/2017 12:12, Kirill A. Shutemov wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, Aug 08, 2017 at 04:35:38PM +0200, Laurent Dufour wrote:
>>>>>> The VMA sequence count has been introduced to allow fast detection of
>>>>>> VMA modification when running a page fault handler without holding
>>>>>> the mmap_sem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This patch provides protection agains the VMA modification done in :
>>>>>> 	- madvise()
>>>>>> 	- mremap()
>>>>>> 	- mpol_rebind_policy()
>>>>>> 	- vma_replace_policy()
>>>>>> 	- change_prot_numa()
>>>>>> 	- mlock(), munlock()
>>>>>> 	- mprotect()
>>>>>> 	- mmap_region()
>>>>>> 	- collapse_huge_page()
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't thinks it's anywhere near complete list of places where we touch
>>>>> vm_flags. What is your plan for the rest?
>>>>
>>>> The goal is only to protect places where change to the VMA is impacting the
>>>> page fault handling. If you think I missed one, please advise.
>>>
>>> That's very fragile approach. We rely here too much on specific compiler behaviour.
>>>
>>> Any write access to vm_flags can, in theory, be translated to several
>>> write accesses. For instance with setting vm_flags to 0 in the middle,
>>> which would result in sigfault on page fault to the vma.
>>
>> Indeed, just setting vm_flags to 0 will not result in sigfault, the real
>> job is done when the pte are updated and the bits allowing access are
>> cleared. Access to the pte is controlled by the pte lock.
>> Page fault handler is triggered based on the pte bits, not the content of
>> vm_flags and the speculative page fault is checking for the vma again once
>> the pte lock is held. So there is no concurrency when dealing with the pte
>> bits.
> 
> Suppose we are getting page fault to readable VMA, pte is clear at the
> time of page fault. In this case we need to consult vm_flags to check if
> the vma is read-accessible.
> 
> If by the time of check vm_flags happend to be '0' we would get SIGSEGV as
> the vma appears to be non-readable.
> 
> Where is my logic faulty?

The speculative page fault handler will not deliver the signal, if the page
fault can't be done in the speculative path for instance because the
vm_flags are not matching the required one, the speculative page fault is
aborted and the *classic* page fault handler is run which will do the job
again grabbing the mmap_sem.

>> Regarding the compiler behaviour, there are memory barriers and locking
>> which should prevent that.
> 
> Which locks barriers are you talking about?

When the VMA is modified and that the changes will impact the speculative
page fault handler the sequence count is touch using write_seqcount_begin()
and write_seqcount_end(). These 2 services contains calls to smp_wmb().
On the speculative path side, the calls to *_read_seqcount() contains also
memory barriers calls.

> We need at least READ_ONCE/WRITE_ONCE to access vm_flags everywhere.

I don't think READ_ONCE/WRITE_ONCE would help here, as they would not
prevent reading transcient state as the vm_flags example you mentioned.

That said, there are not so much VMA's fields used in the SPF's path and
caching them into the vmf structure under the control of the VMA's sequence
count would solve this.
I'll try to move in that direction unless anyone has a better idea.


Cheers,
Laurent.

  reply	other threads:[~2017-08-10 18:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-08-08 14:35 [PATCH 00/16] Speculative page faults Laurent Dufour
2017-08-08 14:35 ` [PATCH 01/16] mm: Dont assume page-table invariance during faults Laurent Dufour
2017-08-08 14:35 ` [PATCH 02/16] mm: Prepare for FAULT_FLAG_SPECULATIVE Laurent Dufour
2017-08-09 10:08   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-08-09 10:54     ` Laurent Dufour
2017-08-08 14:35 ` [PATCH 03/16] mm: Introduce pte_spinlock " Laurent Dufour
2017-08-08 14:35 ` [PATCH 04/16] mm: VMA sequence count Laurent Dufour
2017-08-08 14:35 ` [PATCH 05/16] mm: Protect VMA modifications using " Laurent Dufour
2017-08-09 10:12   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-08-09 10:43     ` Laurent Dufour
2017-08-10  0:58       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-08-10  8:27         ` Laurent Dufour
2017-08-10 13:43           ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-08-10 18:16             ` Laurent Dufour [this message]
2017-08-08 14:35 ` [PATCH 06/16] mm: RCU free VMAs Laurent Dufour
2017-08-08 14:35 ` [PATCH 07/16] mm: Provide speculative fault infrastructure Laurent Dufour
2017-08-08 14:35 ` [PATCH 08/16] mm: Try spin lock in speculative path Laurent Dufour
2017-08-08 14:35 ` [PATCH 09/16] x86/mm: Add speculative pagefault handling Laurent Dufour
2017-08-08 14:35 ` [PATCH 10/16] powerpc/mm: Add speculative page fault Laurent Dufour
2017-08-08 14:35 ` [PATCH 11/16] mm: Introduce __page_add_new_anon_rmap() Laurent Dufour
2017-08-08 14:35 ` [PATCH 12/16] mm: Protect SPF handler against anon_vma changes Laurent Dufour
2017-08-08 14:35 ` [PATCH 13/16] perf: Add a speculative page fault sw events Laurent Dufour
2017-08-09 13:18   ` Michael Ellerman
2017-08-09 13:25     ` Laurent Dufour
2017-08-08 14:35 ` [PATCH 14/16] x86/mm: Add support for SPF events Laurent Dufour
2017-08-08 14:35 ` [PATCH 15/16] powerpc/mm: " Laurent Dufour
2017-08-08 14:35 ` [PATCH 16/16] perf tools: " Laurent Dufour
2017-08-09  1:43   ` Anshuman Khandual

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