From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from gate.crashing.org (gate.crashing.org [63.228.1.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.ozlabs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 40HG0f0QVnzF1yR for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2018 07:18:57 +1000 (AEST) Message-ID: <1522963113.21446.211.camel@kernel.crashing.org> Subject: Re: [RFC] virtio: Use DMA MAP API for devices without an IOMMU From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" Cc: Anshuman Khandual , virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, robh@kernel.org, aik@ozlabs.ru, jasowang@redhat.com, joe@perches.com, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, elfring@users.sourceforge.net, david@gibson.dropbear.id.au Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2018 07:18:33 +1000 In-Reply-To: <20180405213042-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> References: <20180405105631.9514-1-khandual@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <3e1b113b-79ca-b700-5be9-10c66d74aabe@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <20180405175326-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> <1522940983.21446.205.camel@kernel.crashing.org> <20180405213042-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Mime-Version: 1.0 List-Id: Linux on PowerPC Developers Mail List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , On Thu, 2018-04-05 at 21:34 +0300, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: > > In this specific case, because that would make qemu expect an iommu, > > and there isn't one. > > > I think that you can set iommu_platform in qemu without an iommu. No I mean the platform has one but it's not desirable for it to be used due to the performance hit. Cheers, Ben. > > > Anshuman, you need to provide more background here. I don't have time > > right now it's late, but explain about the fact that this is for a > > specific type of secure VM which has only a limited pool of (insecure) > > memory that can be shared with qemu, so all IOs need to bounce via that > > pool, which can be achieved by using swiotlb. > > > > Note: this isn't urgent, we can discuss alternative approaches, this is > > just to start the conversation. > > > > Cheers, > > Ben.