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From: Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>
To: linux-arch <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Yang Shi <yang.shi@linux.alibaba.com>
Cc: Hillf Danton <hdanton@sina.com>,
	mm-commits@vger.kernel.org,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Josef Bacik <josef@toxicpanda.com>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>, Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Yu Xu <xuyu@linux.alibaba.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,
	"Kirill A . Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [patch 01/15] mm/memory.c: avoid access flag update TLB flush for retried page fault
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2020 20:53:23 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1595932767.wga6c4yy6a.astroid@bobo.none> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wha6f0gF1SJg96R77h0oTuc_oO7-37wD=mYGy6TyJOwbQ@mail.gmail.com>

Excerpts from Linus Torvalds's message of July 28, 2020 4:37 am:
> [ Adding linux-arch, just to make other architectures aware of this issue too.
> 
>   We have a "flush_tlb_fix_spurious_fault()" thing to take care of the
> "TLB may contain stale entries, we can't take the same fault over and
> over again" situation.
> 
>   On x86, it's a no-op, because x86 doesn't do that. x86 will re-walk
> the page tables - or possibly just always invalidate the faulting TLB
> entry - before taking a fault, so there can be no long-term stale
> TLB's.

[snip]

>   It looks like powerpc people at least thought about this, and only
> do it if there is a coprocessor. Which sounds a bit confused, but I
> don't know the rules.

I'm not sure about ppc32 and 64e, I'm almost certain they should do a 
local flush if anyting, and someone with a good understanding of the 
ISAs and CPUs might be able to nop it entirely. I agree global can't 
ever really make sense (except as a default because we have no generic 
local flush).

powerpc/64s reloads translations after taking a fault, so it's fine with 
a nop here.

The quirk is a problem with coprocessor where it's supposed to 
invalidate the translation after a fault but it doesn't, so we can get a 
read-only TLB stuck after something else does a RO->RW upgrade on the 
TLB. Something like that IIRC.  Coprocessors have their own MMU which 
lives in the nest not the core, so you need a global TLB flush to
invalidate that thing.

Thanks,
Nick

       reply	other threads:[~2020-07-28 10:55 UTC|newest]

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2020-07-28 10:53                 ` Nicholas Piggin [this message]
2020-07-28 19:02                   ` [patch 01/15] mm/memory.c: avoid access flag update TLB flush for retried page fault Linus Torvalds
2020-07-28 22:53                     ` Nicholas Piggin
2020-07-29 13:58                       ` Michael Ellerman

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