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From: Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>
To: "Jörn Engel" <joern@wohnheim.fh-wedel.de>
Cc: joakim.tjernlund@lumentis.se,
	"Linuxppc-Dev@Lists. Linuxppc. Org"
	<linuxppc-dev@lists.linuxppc.org>
Subject: Re: memmove broken
Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2003 23:01:15 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <16134.52251.943207.814024@cargo.ozlabs.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030705072119.GA32363@wohnheim.fh-wedel.de>


Jörn Engel writes:

> > Why is it an issue?  Is the performance of the byte-by-byte loop
> > really a limiting factor for you?
>
> Not a limiting factor, but it should be noticable.  What is more
> important - in my eyes - is that we can replace magic with obvious
> code.

You are proposing to replace simple, working code with considerably
more complex code.  You need to be able to point to a specific real
situation where your change makes a significant difference if you want
to get it accepted.

If the behaviour of the copy loop is non-obvious then the thing to do
is to add a comment rather than make it more complicated.

> That should not be a problem.  memcpy has a very defined behaviour, as
> long as source and destination don't overlap at all or as the sourse
> is smaller, than the distination.  Cool.

The behaviour is defined as long as source and destination don't
overlap.  You get no guarantees from having source < destination.  It
could quite legitimately copy backwards in all situations, or work
exactly the same as memmove.

> We should be able to do something like this in the zlib:
> if (repeat one byte over and over) /* undefined behaviour for memcpy */
> 	memset();
> else {
> 	if (copy is wrapped) {
> 		memcpy(wrapped part);
> 		tweak pointers;
> 	}
> 	memcpy();
>
> With that, source should always be smaller than destination for
> memcpy, so the implementation details don't matter, as long as memcpy
> doesn't do a reverse memcpy.
>
> Plus, the zlib code is shorter and tells the reader exactly what it
> does, without the need for extra comments.

Well no, I think it still isn't right.  What if the length is large
but dst - src == 2 (e.g. if you compress "abababababab") or 3 (e.g. if
you compress "abcabcabcabcabc")?  Or 4 or 5 or ...?  You will end up
with an awfully large number of special cases.

Paul.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-07-05 13:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-07-03 17:20 memmove broken Joakim Tjernlund
2003-07-04  6:17 ` Paul Mackerras
2003-07-04  8:32   ` Joakim Tjernlund
2003-07-04  9:37     ` Paul Mackerras
2003-07-04 11:07       ` Joakim Tjernlund
2003-07-04 23:38         ` Paul Mackerras
2003-07-05  7:21           ` Jörn Engel
2003-07-05  9:55             ` Holger Bettag
2003-07-05 13:01             ` Paul Mackerras [this message]
2003-07-05 14:57               ` Joakim Tjernlund
2003-07-05 17:01               ` Jörn Engel
2003-07-07 10:32                 ` Joakim Tjernlund
2003-07-07 12:06                   ` Jörn Engel
2003-07-07 12:58                     ` Joakim Tjernlund
2003-07-07 13:16                       ` Jörn Engel

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