From: Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
Cc: tony.luck@intel.com, grundler@parisc-linux.org, jeff@garzik.org,
David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
greg@kroah.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
kyle@parisc-linux.org, linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org, brice@myri.com,
shaohua.li@intel.com, linux-pci@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz,
mingo@elte.hu
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/6] MSI portability cleanups
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 10:05:45 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <17854.32201.131104.928581@cargo.ozlabs.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1170102158.26655.273.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Benjamin Herrenschmidt writes:
> > I'd hate to hit a different Hypervisor that did something close but
> > not quite the same and have the code fail then. So definitely
> > avoiding touching pci config space at all in the calls seems to make a
> > lot of sense. This includes avoiding pci_find_capability right?
>
> Quite possibly yes. I'm pretty sure it will work on IBM HV but we aren't
> really supposed to use it...
Actually, I don't know of any reason why we can't use
pci_find_capability. We are supposed to avoid trying to touch config
space of devices (in fact, functions) that aren't assigned to our
partition, but we're not talking about that here.
I just got an answer from the hypervisor architects. It turns out
that the hardware _does_ prevent the device from sending MSI messages
to another partition. The OS _can_ write whatever it likes to the MSI
address and data registers. It can potentially lose interrupts (or, I
expect, get the device isolated by EEH) but it can't disrupt another
partition.
I think the reason why the hypervisor call writes the values straight
into the MSI/MSI-X registers in the device is (a) that's convenient
for AIX, since it saves it from immediately having to do more calls
into the hypervisor to write those values to the device, and (b) there
are some ABI complications in returning a lot of values, so the device
registers provide a convenient place to return those values.
So it would be possible, although gross, to do the hypervisor call,
read the values from config space and return them to the generic code,
then let the generic code write them to config space for us. :P
The remaining point of difference then seems to be that for MSI-X, we
really want to know up-front how many interrupts the device driver is
asking for, rather than having a series of alloc requests dribble in
one at a time.
Regards,
Paul.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-01-29 23:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 143+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-01-25 8:34 [RFC/PATCH 0/16] Ops based MSI Implementation Michael Ellerman
2007-01-25 8:34 ` [RFC/PATCH 1/16] Replace pci_msi_quirk with calls to pci_no_msi() Michael Ellerman
2007-01-25 22:33 ` patch msi-replace-pci_msi_quirk-with-calls-to-pci_no_msi.patch added to gregkh-2.6 tree gregkh
2007-01-25 8:34 ` [RFC/PATCH 3/16] Combine pci_(save|restore)_msi/msix_state Michael Ellerman
2007-01-25 22:33 ` patch msi-combine-pci__msi-msix_state.patch added to gregkh-2.6 tree gregkh
2007-01-25 8:34 ` [RFC/PATCH 2/16] Remove pci_scan_msi_device() Michael Ellerman
2007-01-25 22:33 ` patch msi-remove-pci_scan_msi_device.patch added to gregkh-2.6 tree gregkh
2007-01-25 8:34 ` [RFC/PATCH 4/16] Abstract MSI suspend Michael Ellerman
2007-01-25 22:33 ` patch msi-abstract-msi-suspend.patch added to gregkh-2.6 tree gregkh
2007-01-28 8:27 ` [RFC/PATCH 4/16] Abstract MSI suspend Eric W. Biederman
2007-01-29 7:22 ` Michael Ellerman
2007-01-29 8:45 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-01-29 9:47 ` Michael Ellerman
2007-01-29 16:52 ` Grant Grundler
2007-01-29 16:57 ` Roland Dreier
2007-01-29 17:02 ` Roland Dreier
2007-01-29 17:25 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-01-29 17:32 ` Roland Dreier
2007-01-29 22:03 ` Grant Grundler
2007-01-29 17:20 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-02-01 4:24 ` Greg KH
2007-01-25 8:34 ` [RFC/PATCH 5/16] Ops based MSI implementation Michael Ellerman
2007-01-25 21:52 ` Greg KH
2007-01-25 22:05 ` Roland Dreier
2007-01-25 22:10 ` Greg KH
2007-01-26 1:02 ` Michael Ellerman
2007-01-25 8:34 ` [RFC/PATCH 6/16] Add bare metal MSI enable & disable routines Michael Ellerman
2007-01-26 5:35 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-01-25 8:34 ` [RFC/PATCH 7/16] Rip out the existing powerpc msi stubs Michael Ellerman
2007-01-25 8:34 ` [RFC/PATCH 8/16] Enable MSI on Powerpc Michael Ellerman
2007-01-25 8:34 ` [RFC/PATCH 9/16] RTAS MSI implementation Michael Ellerman
2007-01-25 8:34 ` [RFC/PATCH 10/16] Add a pci_irq_fixup for MSI via RTAS Michael Ellerman
2007-01-25 8:34 ` [RFC/PATCH 12/16] Tell firmware we support MSI Michael Ellerman
2007-01-25 8:34 ` [RFC/PATCH 11/16] Activate MSI via RTAS on pseries Michael Ellerman
2007-01-25 8:34 ` [RFC/PATCH 13/16] MPIC MSI allocator Michael Ellerman
2007-01-25 8:34 ` [RFC/PATCH 14/16] MPIC MSI backend Michael Ellerman
2007-01-26 6:43 ` Grant Grundler
2007-01-26 7:02 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-01-26 8:47 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-26 16:32 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-01-26 17:19 ` Grant Grundler
2007-01-26 17:56 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-01-26 22:48 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-27 7:01 ` Michael Ellerman
2007-01-26 22:40 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-27 2:11 ` David Miller
2007-01-26 22:08 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-27 6:54 ` Michael Ellerman
2007-01-26 20:50 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-26 22:46 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-01-27 2:46 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-01-27 3:02 ` David Miller
2007-01-27 4:28 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-01-27 18:30 ` Grant Grundler
2007-01-27 20:02 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-26 20:41 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-26 9:11 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-27 6:33 ` Michael Ellerman
2007-01-25 8:34 ` [RFC/PATCH 15/16] Enable MSI mappings for MPIC Michael Ellerman
2007-01-25 8:34 ` [RFC/PATCH 16/16] Activate MSI for the MPIC backend on U3 Michael Ellerman
2007-01-25 21:53 ` [RFC/PATCH 0/16] Ops based MSI Implementation Greg KH
2007-01-25 21:55 ` David Miller
2007-01-26 1:05 ` Michael Ellerman
2007-01-26 1:03 ` Michael Ellerman
2007-01-26 6:18 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-01-26 6:56 ` Grant Grundler
2007-01-26 7:15 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-01-26 7:48 ` Grant Grundler
2007-01-26 15:26 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-01-26 21:58 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-26 8:57 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-26 17:27 ` Grant Grundler
2007-01-26 20:57 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-26 21:24 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-27 5:41 ` Michael Ellerman
2007-01-28 6:16 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-01-28 8:12 ` Michael Ellerman
2007-01-28 8:36 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-01-28 20:14 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-28 20:53 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-01-28 21:17 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-28 22:36 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-01-28 23:17 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-28 23:38 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-01-28 23:51 ` David Miller
2007-01-29 0:58 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-29 1:13 ` David Miller
2007-01-29 3:17 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-29 4:19 ` David Miller
2007-01-29 4:44 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-29 5:46 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-01-29 6:08 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-31 6:52 ` David Miller
2007-01-31 7:40 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-02-01 0:55 ` David Miller
2007-01-29 0:26 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-29 0:59 ` Michael Ellerman
2007-01-28 23:31 ` David Miller
2007-01-28 23:59 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-28 23:26 ` David Miller
2007-01-28 23:25 ` David Miller
2007-01-27 4:59 ` Michael Ellerman
2007-01-28 19:40 ` [PATCH 0/6] MSI portability cleanups Eric W. Biederman
2007-01-28 19:42 ` [PATCH 1/6] msi: Kill msi_lookup_irq Eric W. Biederman
2007-01-28 19:44 ` [PATCH 2/6] msi: Remove msi_lock Eric W. Biederman
2007-01-28 19:45 ` [PATCH 3/6] msi: Fix msi_remove_pci_irq_vectors Eric W. Biederman
2007-01-28 19:47 ` [PATCH 4/6] msi: Remove attach_msi_entry Eric W. Biederman
2007-01-28 19:52 ` [PATCH 5/6] msi: Kill the msi_desc array Eric W. Biederman
2007-01-28 19:56 ` [PATCH 6/6] msi: Make MSI useable more architectures Eric W. Biederman
2007-02-01 6:08 ` patch msi-make-msi-useable-more-architectures.patch added to gregkh-2.6 tree gregkh
2007-02-01 6:07 ` patch msi-kill-the-msi_desc-array.patch " gregkh
2007-02-01 6:08 ` patch msi-remove-attach_msi_entry.patch " gregkh
2007-02-01 6:07 ` patch msi-fix-msi_remove_pci_irq_vectors.patch " gregkh
2007-02-01 6:08 ` patch msi-remove-msi_lock.patch " gregkh
2007-01-28 22:01 ` [PATCH 1/6] msi: Kill msi_lookup_irq Paul Mackerras
2007-01-28 22:18 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-02-01 6:07 ` patch msi-kill-msi_lookup_irq.patch added to gregkh-2.6 tree gregkh
2007-01-28 20:23 ` [PATCH 0/6] MSI portability cleanups Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-28 20:47 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-01-28 21:20 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-01-28 21:26 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-01-28 22:09 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-28 23:26 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-01-28 23:37 ` David Miller
2007-01-29 5:18 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-01-29 5:25 ` David Miller
2007-01-29 5:58 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-01-29 6:05 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-29 8:28 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-01-29 9:03 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-01-29 10:11 ` Michael Ellerman
2007-01-29 20:32 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-29 23:29 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-01-29 23:40 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-29 20:22 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-29 23:05 ` Paul Mackerras [this message]
2007-01-30 19:32 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-29 1:33 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-02-01 4:29 ` Greg KH
2007-01-28 23:44 ` David Miller
2007-01-28 22:11 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-01-28 23:42 ` David Miller
2007-01-28 21:34 ` Eric W. Biederman
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