From: Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>
To: Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>
Cc: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>,
Yoder Stuart-B08248 <stuart.yoder@freescale.com>,
linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 15/16] Add device tree for Ebony
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 13:12:45 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <17875.49565.444870.924729@cargo.ozlabs.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <122a66d49480520cf87cd748bbfc50bb@kernel.crashing.org>
Segher Boessenkool writes:
> Exactly. The "separate device tree" imitates a real OF,
> so you will lose much of its value if you start to deviate
> from how real OF works.
I disagree. It was never (and isn't now) the intention to put all of
the OF requirements on the device tree supplied on OF-less systems.
In other words, "we should do X because the bindings require it" isn't
of itself an argument for making X a requirement on the device tree.
"We should do X because there are good technical reasons for doing it
that way" is. "We should do X because if we don't then device trees
from real OF systems won't be compatible" is also a reasonable
argument.
The device tree is required because it is a flexible way to give
useful information to the kernel. Thus the focus is quite properly on
what is useful (or at least potentially useful) to the Linux kernel,
not on what some binding document says.
Paul.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-02-15 2:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 111+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-02-13 6:09 [0/16] Preliminary Ebony (440GP) support for arch/powerpc David Gibson
2007-02-13 6:10 ` [PATCH 7/16] Early serial debug support for PPC44x David Gibson
2007-02-13 15:04 ` Josh Boyer
2007-02-14 0:16 ` David Gibson
2007-02-14 1:02 ` Josh Boyer
2007-02-14 1:00 ` David Gibson
2007-02-14 2:00 ` Alan Modra
2007-02-14 2:02 ` David Gibson
2007-02-14 2:38 ` Alan Modra
2007-02-14 15:41 ` Josh Boyer
2007-02-14 23:05 ` David Gibson
2007-02-13 6:10 ` [PATCH 3/16] [powerpc] Use udbg_early_init() on ppc32 David Gibson
2007-02-13 6:22 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-02-13 6:10 ` [PATCH 2/16] More DCR native fixups David Gibson
2007-02-13 6:22 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-02-13 6:10 ` [PATCH 1/16] Remove ibm4{xx,4x}.h from arch/powerpc David Gibson
2007-02-13 14:19 ` Josh Boyer
2007-02-13 6:10 ` [PATCH 4/16] powerpc: Allow duplicate lmb_reserve() calls David Gibson
2007-02-13 7:05 ` Michael Neuling
2007-02-13 8:48 ` Michael Ellerman
2007-02-13 20:44 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-02-13 6:10 ` [PATCH 8/16] Define FIXED_PORT flag for serial_core David Gibson
2007-02-13 6:10 ` [PATCH 6/16] Port 44x MMU definitions to ARCH=powerpc David Gibson
2007-02-13 6:24 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-02-13 17:13 ` Roland Dreier
2007-02-13 17:45 ` Josh Boyer
2007-02-13 21:36 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-02-13 6:10 ` [PATCH 5/16] powerpc: Add zImage platform hook for kernel address David Gibson
2007-02-13 6:10 ` [PATCH 13/16] Add initrd properties to device tree from zImage David Gibson
2007-02-13 6:10 ` [PATCH 14/16] Add arch/powerpc driver for UIC, PPC4xx interrupt controller David Gibson
2007-02-13 6:10 ` [PATCH 10/16] Add support for BSS stack for zImage wrapper David Gibson
2007-02-13 6:10 ` [PATCH 9/16] Use resource_size_t for serial port IO addresses David Gibson
2007-02-13 6:10 ` [PATCH 11/16] zImage wrapper for Ebony David Gibson
2007-02-13 17:05 ` Geoff Levand
2007-02-14 0:17 ` David Gibson
2007-02-13 6:10 ` [PATCH 12/16] Automatically lmb_reserve() initrd David Gibson
2007-02-13 7:14 ` Michael Neuling
2007-02-13 6:10 ` [PATCH 15/16] Add device tree for Ebony David Gibson
2007-02-13 20:08 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-02-14 0:22 ` David Gibson
2007-02-14 1:51 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-02-14 4:46 ` David Gibson
2007-02-14 17:54 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-02-14 23:18 ` David Gibson
2007-02-15 0:25 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-02-14 17:51 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-02-14 17:48 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-02-14 21:30 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-02-15 0:03 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-02-15 0:53 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-02-15 1:00 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-02-15 2:22 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-02-15 2:51 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-02-14 23:17 ` David Gibson
2007-02-15 0:27 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-02-15 14:02 ` Jon Loeliger
2007-02-15 14:56 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-02-15 17:02 ` Yoder Stuart-B08248
2007-02-15 17:10 ` Scott Wood
2007-02-16 9:20 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-02-14 16:14 ` Yoder Stuart-B08248
2007-02-14 16:32 ` Josh Boyer
2007-02-14 17:58 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-02-14 20:08 ` Yoder Stuart-B08248
2007-02-14 21:12 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-02-14 21:35 ` Yoder Stuart-B08248
2007-02-14 21:42 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-02-14 21:59 ` Scott Wood
2007-02-15 0:20 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-02-14 22:50 ` Yoder Stuart-B08248
2007-02-14 22:57 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-02-15 0:17 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-02-15 2:12 ` Paul Mackerras [this message]
2007-02-15 2:43 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-02-15 3:15 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-02-15 14:40 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-02-16 1:17 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-02-16 9:41 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-02-15 0:10 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-02-14 23:32 ` David Gibson
2007-02-14 23:27 ` David Gibson
2007-02-14 23:22 ` David Gibson
2007-02-14 23:51 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-02-15 0:36 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-02-15 0:31 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-02-15 1:53 ` David Gibson
2007-02-15 3:09 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-02-15 3:33 ` David Gibson
2007-02-15 14:47 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-02-15 10:52 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-02-15 14:52 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-02-15 20:43 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-02-16 9:23 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-02-15 16:37 ` Yoder Stuart-B08248
2007-02-15 21:41 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-02-16 9:25 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-02-16 15:32 ` Hartmut Penner
2007-02-16 16:47 ` Yoder Stuart-B08248
2007-02-19 12:02 ` Hartmut Penner
2007-02-14 21:29 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-02-13 6:10 ` [PATCH 16/16] Support for Ebony in arch/powerpc David Gibson
2007-02-13 17:18 ` Roland Dreier
2007-02-14 0:20 ` David Gibson
2007-02-13 14:37 ` [0/16] Preliminary Ebony (440GP) support for arch/powerpc Josh Boyer
2007-02-13 20:21 ` Josh Boyer
2007-02-13 15:46 ` Josh Boyer
2007-02-14 16:06 ` Josh Boyer
2007-02-14 23:12 ` David Gibson
2007-02-16 2:19 ` Josh Boyer
2007-02-16 2:53 ` David Gibson
2007-02-16 4:33 ` Josh Boyer
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