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From: Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>
To: Anton Blanchard <anton@samba.org>
Cc: linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org
Subject: Re: [patch 06/10] Add notify die hooks and remove some redundant debugger hooks
Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2007 20:21:25 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <17946.5029.162940.708672@cargo.ozlabs.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070323140929.GA17198@kryten>

Anton Blanchard writes:

> True and we are removing a set of indirect branches that exist already
> (debugger). Id prefer not to have 2 sets of duplicate hooks for all this
> stuff.

There are two concerns I have here.  First, using notifiers tends to
obscure what's going on since the notify call goes off and calls some
random set of functions somewhere, and it's not obvious when reading
the code what that set of functions is.  That's fine when there is a
reason why the set of kernel code modules that want to know about the
event needs to be able to be extended at will without impacting the
generator of the event, but that isn't the case with single-step,
breakpoint or page fault.  If there are only two functions to be
called, I'd rather have a couple of explicit calls than use a
notifier.

The other thing is that we seem to be throwing all sorts of unrelated
events into the die_notifier.  The symptom of that is that you have
one set of handlers that are only interested in the debug events, and
another set that are only interested in the events where the machine
really is dying (oops, etc.).  That is, you have two sets of handlers
that are interested in disjoint sets of events.  That says to me that
we shouldn't be using a single notifier for all the events.
Particularly for page faults I really don't see the point of calling
handlers that are only interested in oopses.

Paul.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-04-09 10:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-03-21  1:38 [patch 00/10] Oops path and debugger hooks rework anton
2007-03-21  1:38 ` [patch 01/10] Add missing oops_enter/oops_exit anton
2007-03-21  1:38 ` [patch 02/10] Clean up pmac_backlight_unblank in oops path anton
2007-03-21  1:38 ` [patch 03/10] Handle recursive oopses anton
2007-03-21  1:38 ` [patch 04/10] Fix backwards ? : when printing machine type anton
2007-03-21  1:38 ` [patch 05/10] Use KERN_EMERG everywhere in oops printout anton
2007-03-21  2:23   ` Stephen Rothwell
2007-03-23 11:00   ` Paul Mackerras
2007-03-21  1:38 ` [patch 06/10] Add notify die hooks and remove some redundant debugger hooks anton
2007-03-21 16:14   ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-03-23 11:14   ` Paul Mackerras
2007-03-23 11:29     ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-03-23 12:04     ` Ananth N Mavinakayanahalli
2007-03-23 14:09     ` Anton Blanchard
2007-03-24  3:17       ` Paul Mackerras
2007-04-09 10:21       ` Paul Mackerras [this message]
2007-04-10  4:49         ` Ananth N Mavinakayanahalli
2007-03-21  1:38 ` [patch 07/10] Page fault handler should not depend on CONFIG_KPROBES anton
2007-03-21 16:13   ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-03-23 14:19     ` Anton Blanchard
2007-03-21  1:38 ` [patch 08/10] Use notifier hooks for xmon anton
2007-03-21  1:38 ` [patch 09/10] Use lowercase for hex printouts in oops messages anton
2007-03-21  2:14   ` Olof Johansson
2007-03-21  7:17     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2007-03-21 16:44       ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-03-21  1:38 ` [patch 10/10] Make sure we only enable xmon once anton
2007-03-21  2:04   ` Anton Blanchard
2007-03-21  2:11   ` Olof Johansson
2007-03-21  2:05     ` Anton Blanchard

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