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From: Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>
To: Gabriel Paubert <paubert@iram.es>
Cc: linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Realtime Kernel <linux-rt-users@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 3/4] Implement clockevents driver for powerpc
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 21:22:30 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <18200.37750.627398.669482@cargo.ozlabs.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20071019092205.GA9668@iram.es>

Gabriel Paubert writes:

> I'd really wish there were a guarantee of a minimum timebase 
> frequency, for anything above ~10MHz, we are splitting hairs
> about an off-by-one error that never accumulates, but if systems
> with very low TB freq exist, you have to be very careful.

Exactly.  In looking through the generic clockevents code, there are a
few places where counts are rounded down.  For example,
clockevents_program_event does this to convert from nanoseconds (in
"delta") to the count value for the clock event device:

	clc = delta * dev->mult;
	clc >>= dev->shift;

Here the right shift can lose up to a whole count.  If the clock
frequency of the device is very slow, say 1kHz, then this could lose
up to 999999 nanoseconds.  Then, on Book E, putting 1 into the
decrementer could result in an interrupt anywhere from straight away to
1 millisecond later (assuming 1kHz timebase frequency, again).

The net result is that delta = 1999999 nanoseconds could result in the
interrupt coming in immediately, i.e. almost 2ms early.

I believe the clockevents framework has not been designed for use with
very slow one-shot clock event devices.  If it is to be used with very
low clock rates, then there are several points where I think the
rounding/truncation issues need to be carefully thought through.

In any case, the code we have at the moment won't work with timebase
clock rates below 15.258kHz, because decrementer_clockevent.mult will
become zero.

Regards,
Paul.

  reply	other threads:[~2007-10-19 11:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-09-21  3:26 [PATCH v2 1/4] Implement {read,update}_persistent_clock Tony Breeds
2007-09-21  3:26 ` [PATCH v2 2/4] Implement generic time of day clocksource for powerpc machines Tony Breeds
2007-09-21  4:05   ` Daniel Walker
2007-09-21  4:59     ` Paul Mackerras
2007-09-21  6:43       ` David Gibson
2007-09-21  4:52   ` Stephen Rothwell
2007-09-21 21:35     ` Tony Breeds
2007-09-21 21:35     ` [PATCH v3 " Tony Breeds
2007-10-03  0:48       ` Paul Mackerras
2007-10-03  4:00         ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-09-21  3:26 ` [PATCH v2 4/4] Enable tickless idle and high res timers for powerpc Tony Breeds
2007-09-21  3:26 ` [PATCH v2 3/4] Implement clockevents driver " Tony Breeds
2007-10-15 17:40   ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-10-15 18:33     ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-10-15 23:44     ` Paul Mackerras
2007-10-17 14:29       ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-10-18  0:51         ` Paul Mackerras
2007-10-18 15:11           ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-10-19  1:53             ` Paul Mackerras
2007-10-19 12:11               ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-10-19 12:36                 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-10-19 13:35                   ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-10-24 12:07                     ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-10-24 23:55                       ` Paul Mackerras
2007-10-17 14:34       ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-10-18  0:36         ` Paul Mackerras
2007-10-18 14:48           ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-10-19  0:14             ` Paul Mackerras
2007-10-19  9:22               ` Gabriel Paubert
2007-10-19 11:22                 ` Paul Mackerras [this message]
2007-10-19 11:49               ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-10-19 12:24                 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-09-26 19:04 ` [PATCH v2 1/4] Implement {read,update}_persistent_clock Steven Rostedt
2007-09-26 19:39   ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-09-26 19:44     ` Steven Rostedt
2007-09-26 19:58       ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-10-15 18:05         ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-10-15 23:46           ` Paul Mackerras
2007-10-16  1:19           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-10-17 12:45             ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-09-27  1:59     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-10-15 18:07       ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-10-15 23:02         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-10-17 15:34 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-10-18 14:18   ` Sergei Shtylyov

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