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From: "Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>
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	"David S . Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/9] vgacon: rework Kconfig dependencies
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2023 10:26:30 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <19631e74-415e-4dcb-b79d-33dcf03d2dfc@app.fastmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87pm4lj1w3.fsf@mail.lhotse>

On Fri, Jul 21, 2023, at 06:59, Michael Ellerman wrote:
> Arnd Bergmann <arnd@kernel.org> writes:
>> From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
>>
>> The list of dependencies here is phrased as an opt-out, but this is missing
>> a lot of architectures that don't actually support VGA consoles, and some
>> of the entries are stale:
>>
>>  - powerpc used to support VGA consoles in the old arch/ppc codebase, but
>>    the merged arch/powerpc never did
>
> Not disputing this, but how did you come to that conclusion? I grepped
> around and couldn't convince myself whether it can work on powerpc or
> not. ie. currently it's possible to enable CONFIG_VGA_CONSOLE and
> powerpc does have a struct screen_info defined which seems like it would
> allow vgacon_startup() to complete.

The VGA console needs both screen_info and vga_con to work. In arch/ppc
we had both, but in arch/powerpc we only retained the screen_info:

$ git grep vga_con v2.6.26 -- arch/ppc arch/ppc64 arch/powerpc
v2.6.26:arch/ppc/platforms/pplus.c:     conswitchp = &vga_con;
v2.6.26:arch/ppc/platforms/prep_setup.c:        conswitchp = &vga_con;

so after arch/ppc was removed, this became impossible to use on both
pplus and prep. These two platforms were also (as far as I can tell)
the only ones to support vga16fb as an alternative to vgacon, but
both platforms were removed later on.

> My only concern is that someone could be using it with Qemu?

I have not yet ruled out anyone using vga16fb on qemu before
commit 0db5b61e0dc07 ("fbdev/vga16fb: Create EGA/VGA devices
in sysfb code"), but I can see that this has been broken for
12 months without anyone complaining about it, since vga16fb
no longer works with the "orig_video_isVGA == 1" setting
in arch/powerpc (the device is not created).

In the qemu sources, I see five powerpc machines that intialize
VGA support: mac_newworld, mac_oldworld, pegasos2, prep, and spapr.
I think we can exclude prep (which was removed from the kernel)
and spapr (64-bit VGA_MAP_MEM() looks broken). I think the
macs always come up in graphical mode and only use
offb/atifb/rivafb/matroxfb but not vga16fb that would require
running the x86 VGA BIOS initialization.

I suppose it's possible to use vga16fb (not vgacon) with
"qemu-system-ppc -M pegasos2 -vga std" if that still boots
at all. Support for pegasos2 hardware appears to have been
removed with commit 04debf21fa174 ("powerpc: Remove core
support for Marvell mv64x60 hostbridges"), but it's possible
that this did not break qemu support if that only uses
devices under arch/powerpc/platforms/chrp/pci.c. I could
not get it to boot, but did not try very hard.

      Arnd

  reply	other threads:[~2023-07-21  8:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-07-19 12:39 [PATCH v2 0/9] video: screen_info cleanups Arnd Bergmann
2023-07-19 12:39 ` [PATCH v2 1/9] vgacon: rework Kconfig dependencies Arnd Bergmann
2023-07-20 18:48   ` Khalid Aziz
2023-07-21  4:59   ` Michael Ellerman
2023-07-21  8:26     ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2023-07-24 12:07       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-07-19 12:39 ` [PATCH v2 2/9] vgacon: rework screen_info #ifdef checks Arnd Bergmann
2023-07-20 18:49   ` Khalid Aziz
2023-07-19 12:39 ` [PATCH v2 3/9] dummycon: limit Arm console size hack to footbridge Arnd Bergmann
2023-07-19 12:39 ` [PATCH v2 4/9] vgacon, arch/*: remove unused screen_info definitions Arnd Bergmann
2023-07-19 13:34   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-07-19 12:39 ` [PATCH v2 5/9] vgacon: remove screen_info dependency Arnd Bergmann
2023-07-19 13:49   ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2023-07-19 13:49   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-07-19 14:38     ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-07-20 18:51   ` Khalid Aziz
2023-07-19 12:39 ` [PATCH v2 6/9] vgacon: clean up global screen_info instances Arnd Bergmann
2023-07-19 14:17   ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2023-07-20 18:53   ` Khalid Aziz
2023-07-19 12:39 ` [PATCH v2 7/9] vga16fb: drop powerpc support Arnd Bergmann
2023-07-19 14:23   ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2023-07-19 12:39 ` [PATCH v2 8/9] hyperv: avoid dependency on screen_info Arnd Bergmann
2023-07-19 14:25   ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2023-07-19 12:39 ` [PATCH v2 9/9] efi: move screen_info into efi init code Arnd Bergmann
2023-07-19 13:19   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2023-07-19 14:35   ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2023-07-19 14:57 ` [PATCH v2 0/9] video: screen_info cleanups Helge Deller

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