From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: <19991116023913.27149.rocketmail@web1004.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 18:39:13 -0800 (PST) From: Dan Bethe Subject: LinuxPPC information compilation (general) To: linuxppc-dev@lists.linuxppc.org, linuxppc-user@lists.linuxppc.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-linuxppc-dev@lists.linuxppc.org List-Id: Greetings fellow LinuxPPC enthusiasts. Please note that I'm not subscribed to linuxppc-user anymore due to excessive traffic. I will infrequently check the list archives but please respond via email if you're on that list. === Beyond the basics, there is extreme splintering and incompleteness in the dissemination of LinuxPPC information. This includes basic usage technique and driver support for each model of Macintosh, making "the basics" all that much more critical in the hobbyist-oriented LinuxPPC community. There is a LOT of information, but we've already discussed the problems with the lack of organization and consolidation of it, making it indefinately useless to many who don't dedicate tons of time and effort. Thanks to whoever put together any of our FAQ, mailing list, and other infrastructure. I'd like to help take responsibility for rounding up everyone's splinter projects and at least making a page of links and docs on linuxppc.org, classified by special interest. I'd like to hierachically index it per hardware model supported, and then per usage technique. It would at least have just URL's, possibly pointing to entries in an even more modern and useful FAQ. === For example, I'd like to start with my system. I want to know every freakin' thing there is to know about LinuxPPC support of the Powerbook "Wallstreet II" G3 Series. I spent a lot of time on the mailing lists, observing and asking many very specific questions, and had amassed a collection of URL's all over the planet -- from the kernel developers at crashing.org, some of whom also overlap with the community at ftp://dev.linuxppc.org, to random pages for people scratching their own itches one at a time. After a MacOS-related data loss, I have used every search engine I know of to try to recollect those links but I can't find most of them. This is IMPORTANT. It's pretty bad when a singular specialist community is SO fractured that a passionately addicted four-year Linux sysadmin/enthusiast such as myself couldn't successfully use linuxppc.org and the rest of the Internet to find where to get a precompiled Powerbook kernel and I can't figure out how to build one myself on my particular machine. I'm just acting primarily upon the group consensus after linuxppc-user's last round of organizational discussions. After I've got a bunch of Powerbook info, I'll find a place on www.linuxppc.org to stash it, and I'll move on to Dan's Self-Appointed Topic #2. That is, to standardize the building and submission of LinuxPPC packages. Topic #3 imho is to put together a think tank consisting of users' prioritized needs, developers' prioritized interests and abilities, and a collection of current projects. Topic #4 in my mind will then be better maintenance of the mailing lists (finer grained lower-traffic topics such as 'powerbook', 'newbie', 'sysadmin', 'packaging', etc). To recap: Topic #1 -- Dan's Powerbook Wallstreet II Topic #2 -- standard package building and submission technique Topic #3 -- think tank enhancing developer-and-user relationship Topic #4 -- better mailing list maintenance To conclude this overenthusiastic runon email, I implore you all to email me every URL you can possibly find regarding LinuxPPC on Powerbook G3 Series, especially Wallstreet II (from March 1999). I will become at least a Powerbook information maintainer for LinuxPPC.org. Thanks for any responses, and for individual replies rather than list floods (mailing lists are floods by design). ===== "Don't expect your own messiah; this neverworld which you desire is only in your mind." -- http://www.dreamtheater.net/songb4.htm#IV5 ** Sent via the linuxppc-dev mail list. See http://lists.linuxppc.org/