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From: Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>
To: pterry@micromemory.com
Cc: linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org, Zhang Wei-r63237 <Wei.Zhang@freescale.com>
Subject: Re: Porting RapidIO from ppc arch to powerpc arch in support of MPC8641D
Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 01:17:20 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <19cfc88d1980974176dd8d315c49e597@kernel.crashing.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1179938586.11247.62.camel@pterry-fc6.micromemory.com>

> OK, but if the device tree is not allowed to dictate policy, to use
> Segher's term, just hardware characteristics, how does that help us get
> the embedded soc kernels away from being designed and built to specific
> demo/eval board setups and make them more configurable?

I don't see the problem really.  Could you point out one
specific problem, and then we solve it?  Repeat as necessary.

> I got the impression that to some extent thats how you/we/?? were 
> trying
> to use the dts stuff. If my board is exactly like freescales xyz demo
> board except I move my rio map to here, my pci map to here, change a 
> few
> sizes etc., why do I have to go and patchup the arch setup code, modify
> ppc_md routines, etc.

That shouldn't be necessary.

> Isn't the plan that I just edit the dts, compile
> with dtc and have u-boot pass in the dtb to the stock kernel and its
> boots on my board?

Mostly, yes.

> If dts can't do this because its not allowed policy statements then 
> what
> will do this?

You pass policy decisions to the kernel some other way.  Like,
on the kernel command line, for example.

> Segher is right,

Yes, I always am.

> Please I'm not trying to start up any previous turf wars here,

Much appreciated!

--

Okay, if I am to help at all here, please someone explain what
"law"s and mboxes and doorbells are (in the context of rapidio).
Also how they are used, etc.


Segher

  reply	other threads:[~2007-05-23 23:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-05-22 19:38 Porting RapidIO from ppc arch to powerpc arch in support of MPC8641D Phil Terry
2007-05-22 20:08 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-05-22 20:09 ` Timur Tabi
2007-05-22 23:05 ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-05-24  6:48   ` Porting RapidIO from ppc arch to powerpc arch in support ofMPC8641D Zhang Wei-r63237
2007-05-24  9:19     ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-05-24  9:44       ` Zhang Wei-r63237
2007-05-24 11:27         ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-05-23 13:26 ` Porting RapidIO from ppc arch to powerpc arch in support of MPC8641D Zhang Wei-r63237
2007-05-23 13:32   ` Mark A. Greer
2007-05-23 14:03     ` Zhang Wei-r63237
2007-05-23 15:42       ` Phil Terry
2007-05-23 15:53       ` Mark A. Greer
2007-05-23 15:54       ` Phil Terry
2007-05-23 14:21   ` Kumar Gala
2007-05-23 15:37     ` Phil Terry
2007-05-23 16:05       ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-05-23 16:20         ` Phil Terry
2007-05-23 16:20           ` Kumar Gala
2007-05-23 16:43             ` Phil Terry
2007-05-23 23:17               ` Segher Boessenkool [this message]
2007-05-23 23:05           ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-05-24  7:31       ` Porting RapidIO from ppc arch to powerpc arch in support ofMPC8641D Zhang Wei-r63237
2007-05-23 16:00     ` Porting RapidIO from ppc arch to powerpc arch in support of MPC8641D Segher Boessenkool
2007-05-23 16:13       ` Phil Terry
2007-05-24  0:52     ` David Gibson

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