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From: Leonardo Bras <leonardo@linux.ibm.com>
To: John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	kvm-ppc@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
Cc: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Mahesh Salgaonkar <mahesh@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	YueHaibing <yuehaibing@huawei.com>,
	Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@linux.ibm.com>,
	Keith Busch <keith.busch@intel.com>,
	Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>, Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	"Aneesh Kumar K.V" <aneesh.kumar@linux.ibm.com>,
	Ganesh Goudar <ganeshgr@linux.ibm.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ira Weiny <ira.weiny@intel.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Allison Randal <allison@lohutok.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 03/11] mm/gup: Applies counting method to monitor gup_pgd_range
Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2019 16:40:59 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1f5f2f689385ceeb1240b4cc66ef3f4b66638ab0.camel@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a5e86058-7950-b832-b042-8cc864de761d@nvidia.com>

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On Tue, 2019-10-01 at 12:04 -0700, John Hubbard wrote:
> On 10/1/19 10:56 AM, Leonardo Bras wrote:
> > On Mon, 2019-09-30 at 14:51 -0700, John Hubbard wrote:
> > > On 9/27/19 4:40 PM, Leonardo Bras wrote:
> ...
> > > > diff --git a/mm/gup.c b/mm/gup.c
> > > > index 98f13ab37bac..7105c829cf44 100644
> > > > --- a/mm/gup.c
> > > > +++ b/mm/gup.c
> > > > @@ -2325,6 +2325,7 @@ static bool gup_fast_permitted(unsigned long start, unsigned long end)
> > > >  int __get_user_pages_fast(unsigned long start, int nr_pages, int write,
> > > >  			  struct page **pages)
> > > >  {
> > > > +	struct mm_struct *mm;
> > > 
> > > I don't think that this local variable adds any value, so let's not use it.
> > > Similar point in a few other patches too.
> > 
> > It avoids 1 deference of current->mm, it's a little performance gain.
> > 
> 
> No, it isn't. :) 
> 
> Longer answer: at this level (by which I mean, "wrote the C code, haven't looked
> at the generated asm yet, and haven't done a direct perf test yet"), none of us
> C programmers are entitled to imagine that we can second guess both the compiler 
> and the CPU well enough to claim that  declaring a local pointer variable on the
> stack will even *affect* performance, much less know which way it will go!
> 

I did this based on how costly can be 'current', and I could notice
reduction in assembly size most of the time. (powerpc)
But I get what you mean, maybe the (possible) performance gain don't
worth the extra work.

> The compiler at -O2 will *absolutely* optimize away any local variables that
> it doesn't need.
> 
> And that leads to how kernel programmers routinely decide about that kind of 
> variable: "does the variable's added clarity compensate for the extra visual 
> noise and for the need to manage the variable?"

That's a good way to decide it. :)

> 
> Here, and in most (all?) other points in the patchset where you've added an
> mm local variable, the answer is no.
> 

Well, IMHO it's cleaner that way. But I get that other people may
disagree. 

> 
> ...	start_lockless_pgtbl_walk(mm);
> > > Minor: I'd like to rename this register_lockless_pgtable_walker().
> > > 
> > > >  		local_irq_disable();
> > > >  		gup_pgd_range(addr, end, gup_flags, pages, &nr);
> > > >  		local_irq_enable();
> > > > +		end_lockless_pgtbl_walk(mm);
> > > 
> > > ...and deregister_lockless_pgtable_walker().
> > > 
> > 
> > I have no problem changing the name, but I don't register/deregister
> > are good terms for this. 
> > 
> > I would rather use start/finish, begin/end, and so on. Register sounds
> > like something more complicated than what we are trying to achieve
> > here. 
> > 
> 
> OK, well, I don't want to bikeshed on naming more than I usually do, and 
> what you have is reasonable, so I'll leave that alone. :)
> 
> thanks,

Thank for the feedback,


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  reply	other threads:[~2019-10-01 19:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-09-27 23:39 [PATCH v4 00/11] Introduces new count-based method for monitoring lockless pagetable walks Leonardo Bras
2019-09-27 23:39 ` [PATCH v4 01/11] powerpc/mm: Adds counting method to monitor lockless pgtable walks Leonardo Bras
2019-09-29 22:40   ` John Hubbard
2019-09-29 23:17     ` John Hubbard
2019-09-30 15:14     ` Leonardo Bras
2019-09-30 17:57       ` John Hubbard
2019-09-30 18:42         ` Leonardo Bras
2019-09-30 21:47           ` John Hubbard
2019-10-01 18:39             ` Leonardo Bras
2019-10-01 18:52               ` John Hubbard
2019-09-27 23:39 ` [PATCH v4 02/11] asm-generic/pgtable: Adds dummy functions " Leonardo Bras
2019-09-27 23:40 ` [PATCH v4 03/11] mm/gup: Applies counting method to monitor gup_pgd_range Leonardo Bras
2019-09-30 11:09   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2019-09-30 14:27     ` Leonardo Bras
2019-09-30 21:51   ` John Hubbard
2019-10-01 17:56     ` Leonardo Bras
2019-10-01 19:04       ` John Hubbard
2019-10-01 19:40         ` Leonardo Bras [this message]
2019-09-27 23:40 ` [PATCH v4 04/11] powerpc/mce_power: Applies counting method to monitor lockless pgtbl walks Leonardo Bras
2019-09-27 23:40 ` [PATCH v4 05/11] powerpc/perf: " Leonardo Bras
2019-09-27 23:40 ` [PATCH v4 06/11] powerpc/mm/book3s64/hash: " Leonardo Bras
2019-09-27 23:40 ` [PATCH v4 07/11] powerpc/kvm/e500: " Leonardo Bras
2019-09-27 23:40 ` [PATCH v4 08/11] powerpc/kvm/book3s_hv: " Leonardo Bras
2019-09-27 23:40 ` [PATCH v4 09/11] powerpc/kvm/book3s_64: " Leonardo Bras
2019-09-27 23:40 ` [PATCH v4 10/11] powerpc/book3s_64: Enables counting method to monitor lockless pgtbl walk Leonardo Bras
2019-09-27 23:40 ` [PATCH v4 11/11] powerpc/mm/book3s64/pgtable: Uses counting method to skip serializing Leonardo Bras

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