* Re: Re: YUP and RPM dependencies
@ 2000-03-18 14:55 jingai
2000-03-18 20:10 ` Dan Burcaw
0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: jingai @ 2000-03-18 14:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linuxppc-dev
> > After I heard about the YellowDog Update Program (YUP) from someone on
this
> > list, I went and downloaded the RPM and installed it. However, it ....
> > But, as a side note, I'm ecstatic that this sort of app is finally
out.. I
>
>
> Ummm... this is a *developer* mailing list - but where, oh where is
> the good old Unix tradition of using the toolbox? Even if you do not
> find a fancy tool with GUI and bells and whistles, you always have
> the toolbox right at your fingertips.
> [...snip...]
> In ten minutes you will have a script of about 100 lines which will
> do exactly what you want... And as an additional benefit you can go
> ecstatic that you have written it yourself, and you probably learned
> a few new things, too.
I realize this, but I was just wanting a package management tool like the
Debian distros ship with *without* having to write scripts such as this.
Unfortunately I have a job at which I work far too many hours and just
haven't the time. I posted this to the dev list to make other developers
aware of the problem with YUP so it can be fixed -- I'd fix it myself, but
I 1) don't know Python at all, and 2) haven't the time to learn it.
Sorry if the post aggravated you.
> Ummm... and BTW: is it really so difficult to check with a search
> engine? I quich search at freshmeat for "update new RPM" shows
>
> rhlupdate
> rhlupdate is a small configurable perl script that will connect to
> your favorite Red Hat site and update all of the RPMS you have
> installed. It also allows you to specify what packages not to
> upgrade.
>
> It's there, you just have to look a bit around...
Again, sorry. I didn't think to look because I figured it would have been
posted all over the list when such a tool was released -- afterall, I'm
sure many RedHat users get pretty tired of manually updating packages.
-j
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* Re: Re: YUP and RPM dependencies
@ 2000-03-18 16:46 jingai
2000-03-18 22:45 ` Dan Burcaw
0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: jingai @ 2000-03-18 16:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linuxppc-dev
> > rhlupdate
> > rhlupdate is a small configurable perl script that will connect to
> > your favorite Red Hat site and update all of the RPMS you have
> > installed. It also allows you to specify what packages not to
> > upgrade.
> >
> > It's there, you just have to look a bit around...
>
> Have you ever used apt-get? These tools like rhlupdate and rpmfind
> are not exactly like apt-get.. which is an awesome program.
Agreed! And that is what I am looking for.
Also, I did finally get YUP to pass the sanity checks (dependencies), but
it still isn't quite what I am looking for, as it provides no way of
selecting which packages I want to install (manually), or just downloading
them rather than installing them. I don't like to download a massive
number of RPMS and have them all automatically installed :)
-j
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* Re: Re: YUP and RPM dependencies
2000-03-18 14:55 Re: YUP and RPM dependencies jingai
@ 2000-03-18 20:10 ` Dan Burcaw
0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Dan Burcaw @ 2000-03-18 20:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: jingai; +Cc: linuxppc-dev
> I realize this, but I was just wanting a package management tool like the
> Debian distros ship with *without* having to write scripts such as this.
> Unfortunately I have a job at which I work far too many hours and just
> haven't the time. I posted this to the dev list to make other developers
> aware of the problem with YUP so it can be fixed -- I'd fix it myself, but
> I 1) don't know Python at all, and 2) haven't the time to learn it.
Are you trying to update a LinuxPPC machine to CS 1.2 with yup?
This may or may not work and provide lots of fun dependency problems.
Currently there isn't a way to disable the sanity checks. You chould try
manually installating packages that yup complained about and see if you
were then able to get through the sanity checks.
> > Ummm... and BTW: is it really so difficult to check with a search
> > engine? I quich search at freshmeat for "update new RPM" shows
> >
> > rhlupdate
> > rhlupdate is a small configurable perl script that will connect to
> > your favorite Red Hat site and update all of the RPMS you have
> > installed. It also allows you to specify what packages not to
> > upgrade.
> >
> > It's there, you just have to look a bit around...
>
> Again, sorry. I didn't think to look because I figured it would have been
> posted all over the list when such a tool was released -- afterall, I'm
> sure many RedHat users get pretty tired of manually updating packages.
Can rhlupdate do:
yup install mpg123
and download mpg123 while also downloading any dependencies that your
system needs to meet before installing mpg123, then install those
packages?
Regards,
Dan
Terra Soft Solutions, Inc.
Yellow Dog Linux
"The Ultimate Companion for a Dedicated Server"
http://www.yellowdoglinux.com/
Black Lab Linux
Advanced Workstations and Parallel Solutions
http://www.blacklablinux.com/
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* Re: Re: YUP and RPM dependencies
2000-03-18 16:46 jingai
@ 2000-03-18 22:45 ` Dan Burcaw
0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Dan Burcaw @ 2000-03-18 22:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: jingai; +Cc: linuxppc-dev
> Also, I did finally get YUP to pass the sanity checks (dependencies), but
> it still isn't quite what I am looking for, as it provides no way of
> selecting which packages I want to install (manually), or just downloading
> them rather than installing them. I don't like to download a massive
> number of RPMS and have them all automatically installed :)
Of course.. advanced selection and options, etc. are on the TODO list.
It is only version 0.5.4, after all. :)
Regards,
Dan
Terra Soft Solutions, Inc.
Yellow Dog Linux
"The Ultimate Companion for a Dedicated Server"
http://www.yellowdoglinux.com/
Black Lab Linux
Advanced Workstations and Parallel Solutions
http://www.blacklablinux.com/
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