Install on a Pismo (going bad)

Install on a Pismo (going bad)

[Tim Wojtulewicz]

I've run into a few problems with installing LinuxPPC 2000 on a Pismo
powerbook.  First, the keyboard isn't recognized by the installer.
I've tried hooking up a USB keyboard from a blue and white G3, but it
says that the device wasn't responding and that is was giving up.  Is
there a workaround of some sort for this?

Second (the more major problem), is that somehow the partition table
on my hard drive got all screwed up.  Now the LinuxPPC installer
tells me it can't read the partition table, and doesn't understand
where my hard drive is.  I tried booting back into MacOS and using a
multitude of tools to reformat the drive (or just recreate the
partition table), with no luck.  Any suggestions?

Thanks.

Tim
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Re: Install on a Pismo (going bad)

[Olaf Hering]

On Tue, Apr 04, Tim Wojtulewicz wrote:

>
> I've run into a few problems with installing LinuxPPC 2000 on a Pismo
> powerbook.  First, the keyboard isn't recognized by the installer.
> I've tried hooking up a USB keyboard from a blue and white G3, but it
> says that the device wasn't responding and that is was giving up.  Is
> there a workaround of some sort for this?
>
> Second (the more major problem), is that somehow the partition table
> on my hard drive got all screwed up.  Now the LinuxPPC installer
> tells me it can't read the partition table, and doesn't understand
> where my hard drive is.  I tried booting back into MacOS and using a
> multitude of tools to reformat the drive (or just recreate the
> partition table), with no luck.  Any suggestions?

Boot from the MacOS CD, use Drive Setup, create one big MacOS partition,
this will/should clean up the partition table. Then create 4 partitions,
one for MacOS, one Linuxboot partition in HFS Format, one swap and a
Linux Partition.
Try the latest Kernel from Ben or our suseboot.hqx file at
ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/ppc/update/BETA

Finally, send me the output of
ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/ppc/update/BETA/suse_hw_info.sh.
Thanks.


Gruss Olaf

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Re: Install on a Pismo (going bad)

[Tim Wojtulewicz]

>On Tue, Apr 04, Tim Wojtulewicz wrote:
>
>>
>>  I've run into a few problems with installing LinuxPPC 2000 on a Pismo
>>  powerbook.  First, the keyboard isn't recognized by the installer.
>>  I've tried hooking up a USB keyboard from a blue and white G3, but it
>>  says that the device wasn't responding and that is was giving up.  Is
>>  there a workaround of some sort for this?
>>
>>  Second (the more major problem), is that somehow the partition table
>>  on my hard drive got all screwed up.  Now the LinuxPPC installer
>>  tells me it can't read the partition table, and doesn't understand
>>  where my hard drive is.  I tried booting back into MacOS and using a
>>  multitude of tools to reformat the drive (or just recreate the
>>  partition table), with no luck.  Any suggestions?
>
>Boot from the MacOS CD, use Drive Setup, create one big MacOS partition,
>this will/should clean up the partition table. Then create 4 partitions,
>one for MacOS, one Linuxboot partition in HFS Format, one swap and a
>Linux Partition.
>Try the latest Kernel from Ben or our suseboot.hqx file at
>ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/ppc/update/BETA
>
>Finally, send me the output of
>ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/ppc/update/BETA/suse_hw_info.sh.
>Thanks.
>
>
>Gruss Olaf
>
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>
>BUGS
>        Users never read manuals...
>

I've come to the decision that the hard drive is fried :(.  I've
tried formatting the drive with Drive Setup and it returns
Initialization Failed every time.  I'm glad I bought the 3 year
warranty now.

Tim
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Re: Install on a Pismo (going bad)

[Jeff Carr]

> Second (the more major problem), is that somehow the partition table
> on my hard drive got all screwed up.  Now the LinuxPPC installer
> tells me it can't read the partition table, and doesn't understand
> where my hard drive is.  I tried booting back into MacOS and using a

What does perldisk see? If perldisk exits abnormally, that's a bad sign,
if it doesn't see any drives, then it's a kernel issue.
jcarr


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Re: Install on a Pismo (going bad)

[Henry A. Worth]

> From: Tim Wojtulewicz <Tim.Wojtulewicz@NAU.EDU>

> I've come to the decision that the hard drive is fried :(.  I've
> tried formatting the drive with Drive Setup and it returns
> Initialization Failed every time.  I'm glad I bought the 3 year
> warranty now.

I suspect Drive Setup has problems with the Pismo and/or OS/9,
had same problem if I selected the option to zero the partitions.
Try without that option.


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Re: Install on a Pismo (going bad)

[Olaf Hering]

On Tue, Apr 04, Henry A. Worth wrote:

>
> > From: Tim Wojtulewicz <Tim.Wojtulewicz@NAU.EDU>
>
> > I've come to the decision that the hard drive is fried :(.  I've
> > tried formatting the drive with Drive Setup and it returns
> > Initialization Failed every time.  I'm glad I bought the 3 year
> > warranty now.
>
> I suspect Drive Setup has problems with the Pismo and/or OS/9,
> had same problem if I selected the option to zero the partitions.
> Try without that option.

I had that problem a long time ago with my 7200/90 and MkLinux or so,
can't remember exactly.
Drive Setup is buggy, it should be OpenSource ;)



Gruss Olaf

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Re: Install on a Pismo (going bad)

[Tim Wojtulewicz]

At 11:19 PM +0200 4/4/00, Olaf Hering wrote:
>On Tue, Apr 04, Henry A. Worth wrote:
>
>>
>>  > From: Tim Wojtulewicz <Tim.Wojtulewicz@NAU.EDU>
>>
>>  > I've come to the decision that the hard drive is fried :(.  I've
>>  > tried formatting the drive with Drive Setup and it returns
>>  > Initialization Failed every time.  I'm glad I bought the 3 year
>>  > warranty now.
>>
>>  I suspect Drive Setup has problems with the Pismo and/or OS/9,
>>  had same problem if I selected the option to zero the partitions.
>>  Try without that option.
>
>I had that problem a long time ago with my 7200/90 and MkLinux or so,
>can't remember exactly.
>Drive Setup is buggy, it should be OpenSource ;)
>
>
>Gruss Olaf

Well, after a night of fighting with it, I was ready to give up.  For
some reason, when I got up this morning it felt like cooperating with
me.  I managed to get the drive formatted correctly, and I'm gonna
work on installing Linux on it tonight.  Thanks for all the help.

Tim


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Re: Install on a Pismo (going bad)

[Ethan Benson]

On Tue, Apr 04, 2000 at 11:19:52PM +0200, Olaf Hering wrote:

> Drive Setup is buggy, it should be OpenSource ;)


very, and i have found that its bugginess surfaces much more when you
try and create non-macos partitions with it, my attempts to do so
resulted in crashes, corrupted partitions tables and other such
nastiness. (and `initialization failed' errors on what i know to be
good disks) so i have simply adopted the standard practice of using
each OS's native fdisk to create its partitions, ie use drive setup to
create macos partitions and mac-fdisk to create linux partitions.

what i tell people to do if they need to share a disk wtih macos is
first use drive setup to create 2 HFS partitions. the first being the
total size of all the linux partitions the user wants to create.  (say
they want 64MB / 1GB /usr 1GB /var 2GB /home, they would make the
first HFS partitions 5060MB)  then delete that partition with
mac-fdisk (aka pdisk under linux) and create the linux partitions
inside the newwly created `hole'

this seems reasonable to me, every single other OS/arch i have used
says to do this: BSD says use linux's `braindamaged' fdisk for its
partitions and BSD's fdisk for BSD partitions, linux says use DOS
fdisk for DOS partitions and its fdisk for linux partitions etc.

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