From: Sven LUTHER <luther@debian.org>
To: "Timothy A. Seufert" <tas@mindspring.com>
Cc: luther@dpt-info.u-strasbg.fr,
Michael Schmitz <schmitz@opal.biophys.uni-duesseldorf.de>,
Albrecht Dreß <ad@mpifr-bonn.mpg.de>,
Tim Wojtulewicz <Tim.Wojtulewicz@nau.edu>,
linuxppc-dev@lists.linuxppc.org, debian-powerpc@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Pismo status
Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 16:33:42 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20000518163342.A14744@lambda.u-strasbg.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <v04220800b5492487abdb@[10.0.0.42]>; from tas@mindspring.com on Wed, May 17, 2000 at 10:15:24PM -0700
On Wed, May 17, 2000 at 10:15:24PM -0700, Timothy A. Seufert wrote:
> At 2:08 PM +0200 5/17/00, Sven LUTHER wrote:
> >On Wed, May 17, 2000 at 12:54:22PM +0200, Michael Schmitz wrote:
> >> > Tim Wojtulewicz wrote:
> >> > > No it's definitely supposed to have a fan. It comes on in MacOS.
> >> > > The problem is that the PMU is not fully supported yet, so it doesn't
> >> > > understand that the processor is too hot. I'm trying to find
> >> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >> > Does this mean that I can damage the machine if I just run a high-load
> >> > program?!?
> >>
> >> I strongly doubt that. The PMU should handle this autonomously, regardless
> >> of Linux support for the PMU.
> >
> >Also, i think the ppc cpu will halt itself when becoming too hot,
>
> No, it will not.
>
> The PowerPC 750 (G3) and 7400 (G4) can both fire off an interrupt
> when the on-die temperature sensor reading rises above a trigger
> value (or falls below a second trigger value). This feature *could*
> be used by an operating system to slow down the CPU (through the
So this mean that the G3 and G4 cpus have both the equivalent of
speedstep/whatever that AMD & Intel are introducing as a big novelty ?
> instruction cache throttling feature) or halt it to prevent
> overheating. However, there is no hardware feature which can halt
> the CPU without software control.
Are you sure about this ? did you already manage to burn out a ppc cpu like
you do when running a pentium without a fan ?
> > and not let
> >itself burn. At elast it was so since the earlier 680x0 cpus.
>
> As far as I know none of the 680x0 CPUs even had an on-die
> temperature sensor, let alone a thermal shutdown feature.
I think to remember that the later 680X0 have, maybe not a temperature sensor,
but a way to halt themself before burning, ...
Friendly,
Sven LUTHER
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2000-05-18 14:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2000-05-16 7:23 Pismo status Chris Leishman
2000-05-16 8:46 ` Michel Dänzer
2000-05-16 14:15 ` Sven LUTHER
2000-05-16 14:13 ` Chris Leishman
2000-05-16 19:51 ` Tim Wojtulewicz
2000-05-17 9:03 ` Albrecht Dre_
2000-05-17 10:54 ` Michael Schmitz
2000-05-17 12:08 ` Sven LUTHER
2000-05-18 5:15 ` Timothy A. Seufert
2000-05-18 9:13 ` Sergio Brandano
2000-05-18 14:35 ` Sven LUTHER
2000-05-18 15:33 ` Sergio Brandano
2000-05-18 14:47 ` Sven LUTHER
2000-05-18 15:49 ` Sergio Brandano
[not found] ` <20000519094029.A16145@lambda.u-strasbg.fr>
2000-05-19 12:30 ` Sergio Brandano
2000-05-19 19:42 ` Worth
2000-05-20 9:51 ` Sergio Brandano
2000-05-20 11:53 ` Michel Dänzer
2000-05-21 5:52 ` David A. Gatwood
2000-05-22 13:32 ` Sven LUTHER
2000-05-22 14:44 ` Sergio Brandano
2000-05-22 13:54 ` Sven LUTHER
2000-05-22 15:01 ` Sergio Brandano
2000-05-22 14:13 ` Sven LUTHER
2000-05-22 15:16 ` Sergio Brandano
2000-05-22 14:33 ` Sven LUTHER
2000-05-22 15:41 ` Michael Schmitz
2000-05-22 15:48 ` Michel Dänzer
2000-05-22 16:46 ` Sergio Brandano
2000-05-22 17:08 ` Michael Schmitz
2000-05-23 17:48 ` Debian pmud package available Michael Schmitz
2000-05-23 18:59 ` Sergio Brandano
2000-05-23 18:09 ` Michael Schmitz
2000-05-24 7:11 ` Stephan Leemburg
2000-05-24 7:31 ` PMUD vs APM Joseph Garcia
2000-05-24 11:00 ` Sergio Brandano
2000-05-24 10:13 ` Joseph Garcia
2000-05-24 11:04 ` Steven Hanley
2000-05-24 9:18 ` Debian pmud package available Michael Schmitz
2000-05-24 20:23 ` Michael Schmitz
2000-05-25 12:04 ` Michel Dänzer
2000-05-25 20:25 ` Michael Schmitz
2000-05-26 7:58 ` Francois Felix Ingrand
2000-05-26 9:25 ` Michael Schmitz
2000-05-28 1:58 ` Robert Thompson
2000-05-28 12:03 ` Michael Schmitz
2000-05-28 14:35 ` Michel Dänzer
2000-05-28 14:42 ` Michael Schmitz
2000-05-30 6:55 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2000-05-30 8:57 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2000-05-30 20:11 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2000-05-31 13:20 ` Francois Felix Ingrand
2000-05-31 19:01 ` Michael Schmitz
2000-06-01 7:45 ` Francois Felix Ingrand
2000-06-01 8:53 ` Michel Dänzer
2000-06-06 18:44 ` Michael Schmitz
2000-06-06 19:12 ` Joseph Garcia
2000-06-06 19:42 ` Michel Dänzer
2000-06-06 20:00 ` Pismo battery support (was 'Re: Debian pmud package available') Joseph Garcia
2000-06-06 20:13 ` Michel Dänzer
2000-06-07 7:08 ` Stephan Leemburg
2000-06-07 7:55 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2000-06-06 20:09 ` Debian pmud package available Michel Dänzer
2000-06-07 13:50 ` Francois Felix Ingrand
2000-05-24 0:31 ` Wilhelm Fitzpatrick
2000-05-24 7:30 ` Stephan Leemburg
2000-05-21 21:01 ` Pismo status Timothy A. Seufert
2000-05-21 21:28 ` Rawhide SRPMS ian reinhart geiser
2000-05-22 5:17 ` Pismo status Ethan Benson
2000-05-22 8:58 ` Timothy A. Seufert
2000-05-22 21:34 ` David A. Gatwood
2000-05-20 16:23 ` Sven LUTHER
2000-05-21 6:10 ` David A. Gatwood
2000-05-18 20:06 ` Worth
2000-05-18 14:33 ` Sven LUTHER [this message]
2000-05-19 5:40 ` Timothy A. Seufert
2000-05-18 14:48 ` Tim Wojtulewicz
2000-05-19 5:53 ` Timothy A. Seufert
2000-05-17 15:04 ` Tim Wojtulewicz
2000-05-17 16:15 ` Sergio Brandano
2000-05-17 17:36 ` Worth
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2000-05-21 10:12 Claudio Nieder
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