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From: Sven LUTHER <luther@debian.org>
To: "David A. Gatwood" <dgatwood@deepspace.mklinux.org>
Cc: Sergio Brandano <sb@dcs.qmw.ac.uk>,
	Worth <haworth@ncal.verio.com>,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.linuxppc.org, debian-powerpc@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Pismo status
Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 15:32:43 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20000522153243.A12915@lambda.u-strasbg.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.3.96.1000520223754.11206C-100000@deepspace.mklinux.org>; from dgatwood@deepspace.mklinux.org on Sat, May 20, 2000 at 10:52:31PM -0700


On Sat, May 20, 2000 at 10:52:31PM -0700, David A. Gatwood wrote:
> On Sat, 20 May 2000, Sergio Brandano wrote:
>
> >  I do not know why I am wasting time with this issue. Anyway, I have a
> >  very different experience on cooling both cars and computers. All the
> >  cars I happen to see do run the fan after shutdown (I can clearly
> >  hear the quiet after shutdown, then the sound of the fan after a few
> >  seconds). This is probably due to a different design for countries
> >  with a warm weather, as you report otherwise. Concerning computers,
> >  and Linux, it is running this OS that the situation improved, as far
> >  as Intel processors are concerned. I can say that the cpus, before
> >  the advent of the caged P-II, where so cold that I could safaly touch

Well, ...

not so long ago i fried a Pentium 200 because i forgot to connect the fan ...

and believe me, it was not cold when i touched it, ...

> >  them. This was, again, using Linux. Using MS-Windows, instead, I
> >  could *not* do the similar thing for sure. And I have been using
> >  Intel processors for a long, long time. I have a very different
> >  experience with PPC. I purchased my first one last summer, and it is
> >  damn hot. How is that Linux does not help here? How is that PPC is
> >  claimed to be cooler than Intel?
>
> Don't compare Apples and Oranges.  You're comparing a Pentium II to a G3.
> A PII is somewhere near a PPC 604 in terms of speed.  If you touch a 604
> heat sink, in my experience, it's luke warm even after running for several
> hundred days continuously under linux.  Been there, done that.

Also it depends if your are using a tower or desktop casing, instead of a
laptop. The laptop is tiny, has no big cooling box and i think most heat of
your laptop comes from your harddisk, graphic chip, memory and DVD drive.

> For a fair comparison to the G3, you need to consider at least a Pentium
> III (at about half again faster clock speed ;-).

well, i think the pIII are less watt hungry, since they are done in a smaller
process. IBM is advertissing their G3 as using less than 6Watss, while PII
used more than 20/30 watts, not to compare with the fast athlons which use 50
watts and up. and since used watts are dissipated more or less into heat, ...

Friendly,

Sven LUTHER

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  reply	other threads:[~2000-05-22 13:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2000-05-16  7:23 Pismo status Chris Leishman
2000-05-16  8:46 ` Michel Dänzer
2000-05-16 14:15   ` Sven LUTHER
2000-05-16 14:13     ` Chris Leishman
2000-05-16 19:51     ` Tim Wojtulewicz
2000-05-17  9:03       ` Albrecht Dre_
2000-05-17 10:54         ` Michael Schmitz
2000-05-17 12:08           ` Sven LUTHER
2000-05-18  5:15             ` Timothy A. Seufert
2000-05-18  9:13               ` Sergio Brandano
2000-05-18 14:35                 ` Sven LUTHER
2000-05-18 15:33                   ` Sergio Brandano
2000-05-18 14:47                     ` Sven LUTHER
2000-05-18 15:49                       ` Sergio Brandano
     [not found]                         ` <20000519094029.A16145@lambda.u-strasbg.fr>
2000-05-19 12:30                           ` Sergio Brandano
2000-05-19 19:42                             ` Worth
2000-05-20  9:51                               ` Sergio Brandano
2000-05-20 11:53                                 ` Michel Dänzer
2000-05-21  5:52                                 ` David A. Gatwood
2000-05-22 13:32                                   ` Sven LUTHER [this message]
2000-05-22 14:44                                     ` Sergio Brandano
2000-05-22 13:54                                       ` Sven LUTHER
2000-05-22 15:01                                         ` Sergio Brandano
2000-05-22 14:13                                           ` Sven LUTHER
2000-05-22 15:16                                             ` Sergio Brandano
2000-05-22 14:33                                               ` Sven LUTHER
2000-05-22 15:41                                                 ` Michael Schmitz
2000-05-22 15:48                                                   ` Michel Dänzer
2000-05-22 16:46                                                   ` Sergio Brandano
2000-05-22 17:08                                                     ` Michael Schmitz
2000-05-23 17:48                                                     ` Debian pmud package available Michael Schmitz
2000-05-23 18:59                                                       ` Sergio Brandano
2000-05-23 18:09                                                         ` Michael Schmitz
2000-05-24  7:11                                                           ` Stephan Leemburg
2000-05-24  7:31                                                             ` PMUD vs APM Joseph Garcia
2000-05-24 11:00                                                               ` Sergio Brandano
2000-05-24 10:13                                                                 ` Joseph Garcia
2000-05-24 11:04                                                                 ` Steven Hanley
2000-05-24  9:18                                                             ` Debian pmud package available Michael Schmitz
2000-05-24 20:23                                                               ` Michael Schmitz
2000-05-25 12:04                                                                 ` Michel Dänzer
2000-05-25 20:25                                                                   ` Michael Schmitz
2000-05-26  7:58                                                                     ` Francois Felix Ingrand
2000-05-26  9:25                                                                       ` Michael Schmitz
2000-05-28  1:58                                                                         ` Robert Thompson
2000-05-28 12:03                                                                           ` Michael Schmitz
2000-05-28 14:35                                                                             ` Michel Dänzer
2000-05-28 14:42                                                                               ` Michael Schmitz
2000-05-30  6:55                                                                             ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2000-05-30  8:57                                                                               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2000-05-30 20:11                                                                                 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2000-05-31 13:20                                                                         ` Francois Felix Ingrand
2000-05-31 19:01                                                                           ` Michael Schmitz
2000-06-01  7:45                                                                             ` Francois Felix Ingrand
2000-06-01  8:53                                                                             ` Michel Dänzer
2000-06-06 18:44                                                                               ` Michael Schmitz
2000-06-06 19:12                                                                                 ` Joseph Garcia
2000-06-06 19:42                                                                                   ` Michel Dänzer
2000-06-06 20:00                                                                                     ` Pismo battery support (was 'Re: Debian pmud package available') Joseph Garcia
2000-06-06 20:13                                                                                       ` Michel Dänzer
2000-06-07  7:08                                                                                         ` Stephan Leemburg
2000-06-07  7:55                                                                                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2000-06-06 20:09                                                                                     ` Debian pmud package available Michel Dänzer
2000-06-07 13:50                                                                                     ` Francois Felix Ingrand
2000-05-24  0:31                                                       ` Wilhelm Fitzpatrick
2000-05-24  7:30                                                         ` Stephan Leemburg
2000-05-21 21:01                                 ` Pismo status Timothy A. Seufert
2000-05-21 21:28                                   ` Rawhide SRPMS ian reinhart geiser
2000-05-22  5:17                                   ` Pismo status Ethan Benson
2000-05-22  8:58                                     ` Timothy A. Seufert
2000-05-22 21:34                                     ` David A. Gatwood
2000-05-20 16:23                             ` Sven LUTHER
2000-05-21  6:10                               ` David A. Gatwood
2000-05-18 20:06                 ` Worth
2000-05-18 14:33               ` Sven LUTHER
2000-05-19  5:40                 ` Timothy A. Seufert
2000-05-18 14:48               ` Tim Wojtulewicz
2000-05-19  5:53                 ` Timothy A. Seufert
2000-05-17 15:04         ` Tim Wojtulewicz
2000-05-17 16:15           ` Sergio Brandano
2000-05-17 17:36             ` Worth
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2000-05-21 10:12 Claudio Nieder

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