From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Date: Sun, 28 May 2000 06:12:24 -0800 From: Ethan Benson To: Henning Loeser Cc: linuxppc-dev@lists.linuxppc.org Subject: Re: ide_dmaproc - YaBoot Message-ID: <20000528061224.I29071@plato.local.lan> References: <200005261837.UAA00662@piglet.grunz.lu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="6pllAmZw5nNZD8Lv" In-Reply-To: ; from Henning.Loeser@Physik.Uni-Marburg.DE on Sun, May 28, 2000 at 03:20:30PM +0200 Sender: owner-linuxppc-dev@lists.linuxppc.org List-Id: --6pllAmZw5nNZD8Lv Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, May 28, 2000 at 03:20:30PM +0200, Henning Loeser wrote: > What I found seems to have been related to not using yaboot. As I have a > 'old 7500' with MacOS8.1 I thought BootX would be just fine. But maybe > not. Can I use yaboot on my machine? The WebPages are not very clear on > that part. BenH's site states that yaboot is onbly for 'NewWorld' macs, > but Eric's FAQ states that yaboot is for 'NewWorld' macs, but users of > earlier machines should consider switching if they encounter odd problems > ... yaboot will not work on oldworld macs, you need to use quik instead. > Well I do encounter strange Problems ... seems typical of bootx lately... > So should I go through the hassel of installing yaboot? no because it would be a waste of time since it won't work ;-) you should go to the hassle of installing quik instead. (hint use debian quik it actually works) before anyone starts bitching about how quik is so horrible to setup, let me say this, yaboot would be no different, they are both OF boot loaders the only difference is yaboot is essentially a second stage loader only, quik has a first stage loader which eliminates the need for a bootstrap partition. The problems people have with quik is the following: most [oldworld] macs don't have OF video drivers, this makes interfacing with OF someone annoying. oldworld macs have `the BrokenFirmware from hell' not even MS has made anything as broken as this firmware ;-) both of these problems exist just as well with yaboot as they do with quik. the only reason yaboot is less painful on newworld is due to the one-quarter-way usable OF, and the OF video driver.=20 it might be possible to make yaboot work on an oldworld, but why? all you would end up with is quik second stage. (which is basically all yaboot is, quik second stage with bits of silo and other assorted stuff to work on newworlds) anyway my point is if you want OF booting on an oldworld you want quik, not yaboot.=20 --=20 Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ --6pllAmZw5nNZD8Lv Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjkxKUgACgkQJKx7GixEevwClgCeIw6LcxRh4MWoPMba1SXbiTcR FTAAnioLJQyI5vSZWY6fEljnxSBhqa7F =9x0/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --6pllAmZw5nNZD8Lv-- ** Sent via the linuxppc-dev mail list. See http://lists.linuxppc.org/