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* [ANN] New kernels, gmac, airport, usb...
@ 2000-07-02 18:43 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
  2000-07-03  7:43 ` Chris Leishman
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt @ 2000-07-02 18:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linuxppc-dev, debian-powerpc, yellowdog-general


I've uploaded a new test kernel (2.2.17pre9-ben1) to the web page at

   <http://ppclinux.apple.com/~benh/>

This kernel contains all the various updates and fixes made since the
latest release, add some new stuffs like:

  - New USB backport from 2.4 (Suse latest backport)
  - New GMAC driver with support for multicast&promisc, better perfs, no
    longer corrupts memory
  - Changes to the ADB and USB Mac keyboard & mouse drivers (Franz Sirl)
    to handle the new Linux Input Drivers mecanism (see page for details)
  - Whatever I forgot ;)

On this page, you'll also find an Airport driver for the Apple Airport
card. It has been successfully tested with a Pismo powerbook, an iBook
and a G4 "Sawtooth". You need the latest kernel for it to work correctly,
and you should have this kernel's sources linked to /usr/src/linux in
order to compile it (it's downloadable in source form only). Useage is
similar to the wvlan_cs driver for the Lucent PCMCIA card, the interface
name is 'airport'.

WARNING: This kernel may contain bugs. I've made lots of efforts to avoid
that, but it's still possible that there are some. Please report me any
problem other than the "normal" mouse keyboard issues discussed on the
web page, and I'll get those fixed. Please test on your HW since I plan
to merge most (if not all) of those changes to the mainstream PPC kernel asap.

Have fun !
Ben.

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* Re: [ANN] New kernels, gmac, airport, usb...
  2000-07-02 18:43 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
@ 2000-07-03  7:43 ` Chris Leishman
  2000-07-03  8:59   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Chris Leishman @ 2000-07-03  7:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Benjamin Herrenschmidt; +Cc: linuxppc-dev


On Sun, Jul 02, 2000 at 08:43:13PM +0200, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
<snip>
> On this page, you'll also find an Airport driver for the Apple Airport
> card. It has been successfully tested with a Pismo powerbook, an iBook
> and a G4 "Sawtooth". You need the latest kernel for it to work correctly,
> and you should have this kernel's sources linked to /usr/src/linux in
> order to compile it (it's downloadable in source form only). Useage is
> similar to the wvlan_cs driver for the Lucent PCMCIA card, the interface
> name is 'airport'.
>

Is the airport driver based on the latest wvlan_cs?  Your page indicates that
WEP is not supported, although the latest wvlan_cs does appear to support WEP.

Regards,

Chris

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* Re: [ANN] New kernels, gmac, airport, usb...
  2000-07-03  7:43 ` Chris Leishman
@ 2000-07-03  8:59   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
  2000-07-03  9:08     ` Chris Leishman
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt @ 2000-07-03  8:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Chris Leishman, linuxppc-dev


>Is the airport driver based on the latest wvlan_cs?  Your page indicates that
>WEP is not supported, although the latest wvlan_cs does appear to
support WEP.

It is based on it, but AFAIK, WEB doesn't work with the Apple base
station. It should be possible to use WEB between two airports on linux,
but I didn't try. What I meant on the page was a quick explanation on how
to get it working with an Apple Airport base station.

If its actually supported, then I'll be glad to fix the page ;)

Ben.


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* Re: [ANN] New kernels, gmac, airport, usb...
  2000-07-03  8:59   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
@ 2000-07-03  9:08     ` Chris Leishman
  2000-07-03  9:22       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Chris Leishman @ 2000-07-03  9:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Benjamin Herrenschmidt; +Cc: linuxppc-dev


On Mon, Jul 03, 2000 at 10:59:45AM +0200, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> >Is the airport driver based on the latest wvlan_cs?  Your page indicates that
> >WEP is not supported, although the latest wvlan_cs does appear to
> support WEP.
>
> It is based on it, but AFAIK, WEB doesn't work with the Apple base
> station. It should be possible to use WEB between two airports on linux,
> but I didn't try. What I meant on the page was a quick explanation on how
> to get it working with an Apple Airport base station.
>
> If its actually supported, then I'll be glad to fix the page ;)
>
> Ben.


Well, I've been playing with it - and I can't seem to get it running...
so I guess it isn't yet :(


Chris

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* Re: [ANN] New kernels, gmac, airport, usb...
  2000-07-03  9:08     ` Chris Leishman
@ 2000-07-03  9:22       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
  2000-07-03 10:02         ` Chris Leishman
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt @ 2000-07-03  9:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Chris Leishman, linuxppc-dev


>> It is based on it, but AFAIK, WEB doesn't work with the Apple base
>> station. It should be possible to use WEB between two airports on linux,
>> but I didn't try. What I meant on the page was a quick explanation on how
>> to get it working with an Apple Airport base station.
>>
>> If its actually supported, then I'll be glad to fix the page ;)
>>
>> Ben.
>
>
>Well, I've been playing with it - and I can't seem to get it running...
>so I guess it isn't yet :(

I'm still not completely awake, of course, you will have replaced all
occurences of WEB in my mail by WEP ;)

The card works fine between two macs and a mac & an airport base station
with WEP disabled. According to someone on the mailing list, using the
base station WEP requires knowledge about the Apple key distribution
mecanism, and we don't have this knowledge.

Ben.


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* Re: [ANN] New kernels, gmac, airport, usb...
  2000-07-03  9:22       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
@ 2000-07-03 10:02         ` Chris Leishman
  2000-07-03 12:26           ` Chas Williams
  2000-07-03 12:55           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Chris Leishman @ 2000-07-03 10:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Benjamin Herrenschmidt; +Cc: linuxppc-dev


On Mon, Jul 03, 2000 at 11:22:38AM +0200, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
<snip>
> >Well, I've been playing with it - and I can't seem to get it running...
> >so I guess it isn't yet :(
>
> I'm still not completely awake, of course, you will have replaced all
> occurences of WEB in my mail by WEP ;)
>
> The card works fine between two macs and a mac & an airport base station
> with WEP disabled. According to someone on the mailing list, using the
> base station WEP requires knowledge about the Apple key distribution
> mecanism, and we don't have this knowledge.

Bugger.  I was hoping to use my airport - but I don't think I'll be allowed to
turn off security on our corporate wireless net ;)

I wonder if apple would be willing to let this out??  Probably not...
Does MacOS X support WEP yet?  Perhaps I should have a look through there.

Regards,

Chris


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* Re: [ANN] New kernels, gmac, airport, usb...
  2000-07-03 10:02         ` Chris Leishman
@ 2000-07-03 12:26           ` Chas Williams
  2000-07-03 22:17             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
  2000-07-03 12:55           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Chas Williams @ 2000-07-03 12:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Chris Leishman; +Cc: Benjamin Herrenschmidt, linuxppc-dev


In message <20000703200255.A7528@freeonline.com.au>,Chris Leishman writes:
>> base station WEP requires knowledge about the Apple key distribution
>> mecanism, and we don't have this knowledge.
>Bugger.  I was hoping to use my airport - but I don't think I'll be allowed to
>turn off security on our corporate wireless net ;)

actually, if i understand the problem, the 'standard' driver wants to know
the 56-bit key in hex and apple generates this key using the text string
you supply (after passing it through using some hashing routine)

if you have an airport basestation (with 1.1 s/w or later) you can
see the hex string that is being used by choosing 'Network Equivalent
Password...' under the 'Base Station' menu in the airport admin utility.

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* Re: [ANN] New kernels, gmac, airport, usb...
  2000-07-03 10:02         ` Chris Leishman
  2000-07-03 12:26           ` Chas Williams
@ 2000-07-03 12:55           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
  2000-07-03 13:44             ` Chris Leishman
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt @ 2000-07-03 12:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Chris Leishman, linuxppc-dev


>
>Bugger.  I was hoping to use my airport - but I don't think I'll be
allowed to
>turn off security on our corporate wireless net ;)

What I do is to configure the station to accept only the HW MAC address
of my card.

>I wonder if apple would be willing to let this out??  Probably not...
>Does MacOS X support WEP yet?  Perhaps I should have a look through there.

MacOS X does have a driver but it's not open sourced.

Ben.


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* Re: [ANN] New kernels, gmac, airport, usb...
  2000-07-03 12:55           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
@ 2000-07-03 13:44             ` Chris Leishman
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Chris Leishman @ 2000-07-03 13:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Benjamin Herrenschmidt; +Cc: linuxppc-dev


On Mon, Jul 03, 2000 at 02:55:41PM +0200, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
>
> >
> >Bugger.  I was hoping to use my airport - but I don't think I'll be
> allowed to
> >turn off security on our corporate wireless net ;)
>
> What I do is to configure the station to accept only the HW MAC address
> of my card.

Only problem here is that the traffic is still viewable by anyone, and it
probably isn't that hard to fake the the HW address...

>
> >I wonder if apple would be willing to let this out??  Probably not...
> >Does MacOS X support WEP yet?  Perhaps I should have a look through there.
>
> MacOS X does have a driver but it's not open sourced.
>

That would be right.  doh :(


Chris


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* Re: [ANN] New kernels, gmac, airport, usb...
  2000-07-03 12:26           ` Chas Williams
@ 2000-07-03 22:17             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
  2000-07-04  5:52               ` Chris Leishman
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt @ 2000-07-03 22:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Chas Williams, Chas Williams, linuxppc-dev


>
>actually, if i understand the problem, the 'standard' driver wants to know
>the 56-bit key in hex and apple generates this key using the text string
>you supply (after passing it through using some hashing routine)
>
>if you have an airport basestation (with 1.1 s/w or later) you can
>see the hex string that is being used by choosing 'Network Equivalent
>Password...' under the 'Base Station' menu in the airport admin utility.

I got it to work. There was an endian problem in the driver preventing
using of the WEP mode. It's fixed in version 0.9.2. I also added a module
param for the key so you don't need iwconfig to set it

see ppclinux.apple.com/~benh for updates

Ben.

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* Re: [ANN] New kernels, gmac, airport, usb...
  2000-07-03 22:17             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
@ 2000-07-04  5:52               ` Chris Leishman
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Chris Leishman @ 2000-07-04  5:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Benjamin Herrenschmidt; +Cc: Chas Williams, linuxppc-dev

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On Tue, Jul 04, 2000 at 12:17:29AM +0200, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
<snip> 
> I got it to work. There was an endian problem in the driver preventing
> using of the WEP mode. It's fixed in version 0.9.2. I also added a module
> param for the key so you don't need iwconfig to set it
> 
> see ppclinux.apple.com/~benh for updates
> 
> Ben.
> 


Ok..got the new driver, and I can confirm it working here.  Yay...free
of wires at last!

Thanks for all your work Ben.

Regards,

Chris


BTW.  Got any good resources I can start with so I can learn my way around
this sort of thing (kernel/drivers/etc)?  Might mean I can help out in 
future...

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* Re: [ANN] New kernels, gmac, airport, usb...
@ 2000-07-05 19:52 Dan Bethe
  2000-07-05 20:00 ` Josh Huber
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Dan Bethe @ 2000-07-05 19:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Benjamin Herrenschmidt; +Cc: linuxppc-dev


> Ok..got the new driver, and I can confirm it working here.
> Yay...free
> of wires at last!

	I apologize if this is a FAQ, but is there any chance that Airport can
work on IA32?  Or is this just on LinuxPPC on Powerbooks and iBooks?

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* Re: [ANN] New kernels, gmac, airport, usb...
  2000-07-05 19:52 [ANN] New kernels, gmac, airport, usb Dan Bethe
@ 2000-07-05 20:00 ` Josh Huber
  2000-07-12 10:51   ` Steven Hanley
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Josh Huber @ 2000-07-05 20:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Dan Bethe; +Cc: Benjamin Herrenschmidt, linuxppc-dev

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On Wed, Jul 05, 2000 at 12:52:34PM -0700, Dan Bethe wrote:
> 
> > Ok..got the new driver, and I can confirm it working here.
> > Yay...free
> > of wires at last!
> 
> 	I apologize if this is a FAQ, but is there any chance that Airport can
> work on IA32?  Or is this just on LinuxPPC on Powerbooks and iBooks?

The airport card is specifically for the newer powerbooks and the ibooks, so
you can't use that card.  You can however use a Airport base with a wavelan
card which is what the airport card is based on.

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* Re: [ANN] New kernels, gmac, airport, usb...
  2000-07-05 20:00 ` Josh Huber
@ 2000-07-12 10:51   ` Steven Hanley
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Steven Hanley @ 2000-07-12 10:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Josh Huber, Linux PPC Dev


>  You can however use a Airport base with a wavelan
> card which is what the airport card is based on.

or for that matter any 802.11 compatible card (I have seen an aironet
11MBit card talking to an airport plugged into a vaio next to an ibook
also using the airport so it all works nicely), see
http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/ for a definitive
sort of reference on wireless hardware such as this on linux or at least
links.

	See You
	    Steve

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